Citzenship Vs Remaining an LPR
Probably covered before many a time but could someone remind me what the benefits are on becoming a citizen rather than remaining and LPR, other than voting, standing for office etc. I know I will forever have to file uS taxes whatever status I am or wherever I live.
I think there's something to do with social security, retirement planning etc but online the info is variable. Should also say that I will probably return to the UK in the next 5 years so that could have a bearing on whether its advantageous to becoming a citizen. |
Re: Citzenship Vs Remaining an LPR
Originally Posted by freerskier
(Post 12851472)
Probably covered before many a time but could someone remind me what the benefits are on becoming a citizen rather than remaining and LPR, other than voting, standing for office etc. I know I will forever have to file uS taxes whatever status I am or wherever I live.
I think there's something to do with social security, retirement planning etc but online the info is variable. Should also say that I will probably return to the UK in the next 5 years so that could have a bearing on whether its advantageous to becoming a citizen. |
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That's a point mikelincs - hadn't thought of that one.
I think there is stuff about the amount or rights to social security when you retire also. |
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Some time ago I was having to trawl through ITAR regulations, within which there are all sorts of links to employment legislation. Long story short, there's a downside to not applying for citizenship within 6 months of entitlement to do so. How big of a downside it is I have no way to measure.
From https://www.justice.gov/crt/types-discrimination Citizenship status discrimination with respect to hiring, firing, and recruitment or referral for a fee by employers with four or more employees. Employers with four or more employees are not allowed to treat individuals differently in hiring, firing, recruitment or referral for a fee based on citizenship status. You can get more information about citizenship status discrimination by contacting IER and at 8 U.S.C. § 1324b(a)(1)(B). Citizenship status includes a person's immigration status. U.S. citizens, U.S. nationals, asylees, refugees, and recent lawful permanent residents are protected from citizenship status discrimination. Exceptions: lawful permanent residents who do not apply for naturalization within six months of eligibility by virtue of their period of residency are not protected from citizenship status discrimination. |
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Thanks celticgrid - hand thought of the work/employment thing. Doesn't impact me at the moment but it could.
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Thanks again and christmasooopma for the wiki - I knew it was there somewhere.
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Re: Citzenship Vs Remaining an LPR
Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 12851495)
The major thing in favour of becoming a citizen is that you do not need a visa to enter the USA, they can't stop you entering and it never needs renewing.
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Re: Citzenship Vs Remaining an LPR
Originally Posted by freerskier
(Post 12851472)
Probably covered before many a time but could someone remind me what the benefits are on becoming a citizen rather than remaining and LPR, other than voting, standing for office etc. I know I will forever have to file uS taxes whatever status I am or wherever I live.
I think there's something to do with social security, retirement planning etc but online the info is variable. Should also say that I will probably return to the UK in the next 5 years so that could have a bearing on whether its advantageous to becoming a citizen. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/inte...patriation-tax As a Citizen you can also use the foreign earned income exclusion: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/inte...come-exclusion If you have property or significant assets professional advice may be a good investment. |
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Being a citizen protects you from any future changes to immigration laws and requirements. Who knows what Trump might pull during a second term in office, with nothing to lose.
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Originally Posted by lansbury
(Post 12851566)
.... Who knows what Trump might pull during a second term in office, with nothing to lose?
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12851659)
Me me, I do! :egyptian:..... Not much, becuase the President doesn't pass laws, or even control the legislative schedule. :whistle:
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Re: Citzenship Vs Remaining an LPR
Originally Posted by celticgrid
(Post 12851511)
Some time ago I was having to trawl through ITAR regulations, within which there are all sorts of links to employment legislation.
I fully intend to become a US Citizen at the earliest opportunity, not least because I don't like my career prospects being limited. |
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I'm thinking I would apply for citizenship BUT I will ultimately return to the the U of K in the next 5 years probably, so I'd be pulling out of the 2024 presidential race for sure. Job wise I am (at the moment) fairly secure + I have no US family - therefore it doesn't seem like I'd benefit if thats the selfish way to frame the decision.
Now, the only other really unknown is the social security entitlement if I were citizen vs an LPR on return to Blighty. Here's a little link I found. Not comprehensive but a start: https://finance.zacks.com/green-card-holders-living-abroad-eligible-social-security-benefits-7673.html Here's the SSA leaflet as well: https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10137.pdf |
Re: Citzenship Vs Remaining an LPR
Originally Posted by freerskier
(Post 12852075)
I'm thinking I would apply for citizenship BUT I will ultimately return to the the U of K in the next 5 years probably, so I'd be pulling out of the 2024 presidential race for sure. Job wise I am (at the moment) fairly secure + I have no US family - therefore it doesn't seem like I'd benefit if thats the selfish way to frame the decision.
Now, the only other really unknown is the social security entitlement if I were citizen vs an LPR on return to Blighty. Here's a little link I found. Not comprehensive but a start: https://finance.zacks.com/green-card-holders-living-abroad-eligible-social-security-benefits-7673.html Here's the SSA leaflet as well: https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10137.pdf ” Resident StatusAlthough a green card holder may collect his Social Security benefits while living abroad, he needs to be cognizant of the amount of time he spends there. Green card holders who plan to live outside of the U.S. for more than one year must obtain a returning resident visa or reentry permit prior to leaving or they risk losing their permanent residency status, according to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service. Those who get a reentry permit, but stay abroad more than two years after it was issued, also may have their green card revoked, as may resident aliens who relocate to another country. When a green card holder elects to live in a country which has no tax treaty with the U.S, he should be prepared for his benefit payments to cease after six months.” |
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