CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
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CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
Dear members,
I have a question and need your advise in my case please:
I have been arrested for shoplifting and spent a night in jail, then have been released, went to the public defender, pleaded not guilty.
judge ordered me to do 40 hrs of community work, pay $250 and to go to the pre-trial diversion program, he gave 4 months to complete all that, and after that he said that all charges would be dropped and case dismissed, I went to court after completing all and judge told me that I am "clean" and that the case was dismissed.
i completed all what i have been ordered, also i payed to the store and received release letter from them saying that they are releasing me from any claims.
I have been charged with:
a Misdemeanor, violation of section 1320(a)PC, conviction of which may result imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding six months, or by fine not exceeding One Thousand Dollars or by both.
i dont know if any of that makes any difference, that it was misdemeanor (petty theft) NOT a felony
So now my question:
I am conditional resident (married to US citizen),
about three months ago, me and my spouse filed joint I-751 to remove condition from my green card, we've got NOA and biometrics letter (i went there in August), and havent heard anything from CIS since.
Do you guys think that "arrest" means automatic interview for I-751?
Another question: When am I eligible to apply for naturalization? One lawyer told me that since I plead not guilty and the case was dismissed (and there was no conviction) that I would be eligible to apply for naturalization after 3 years (minus 90 days) from the date my green card was issued, is that true? is that possible? What papers do I need to prepare? I already got certified copies of all court minute dockets and sent along with our I-751.
I am so sorry for what has happened, and we just hope and pray to God that everything's gonna be ok with my papers, hopefully.
Thanks a lot in advance
PS: In CA you dont have to enter any plea in order to qualify for pre-trial diversion program.
I have a question and need your advise in my case please:
I have been arrested for shoplifting and spent a night in jail, then have been released, went to the public defender, pleaded not guilty.
judge ordered me to do 40 hrs of community work, pay $250 and to go to the pre-trial diversion program, he gave 4 months to complete all that, and after that he said that all charges would be dropped and case dismissed, I went to court after completing all and judge told me that I am "clean" and that the case was dismissed.
i completed all what i have been ordered, also i payed to the store and received release letter from them saying that they are releasing me from any claims.
I have been charged with:
a Misdemeanor, violation of section 1320(a)PC, conviction of which may result imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding six months, or by fine not exceeding One Thousand Dollars or by both.
i dont know if any of that makes any difference, that it was misdemeanor (petty theft) NOT a felony
So now my question:
I am conditional resident (married to US citizen),
about three months ago, me and my spouse filed joint I-751 to remove condition from my green card, we've got NOA and biometrics letter (i went there in August), and havent heard anything from CIS since.
Do you guys think that "arrest" means automatic interview for I-751?
Another question: When am I eligible to apply for naturalization? One lawyer told me that since I plead not guilty and the case was dismissed (and there was no conviction) that I would be eligible to apply for naturalization after 3 years (minus 90 days) from the date my green card was issued, is that true? is that possible? What papers do I need to prepare? I already got certified copies of all court minute dockets and sent along with our I-751.
I am so sorry for what has happened, and we just hope and pray to God that everything's gonna be ok with my papers, hopefully.
Thanks a lot in advance
PS: In CA you dont have to enter any plea in order to qualify for pre-trial diversion program.
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
Originally Posted by bantik2005
Do you guys think that "arrest" means automatic interview for I-751?
One lawyer told me that since I plead not guilty and the case was dismissed (and there was no conviction) that I would be eligible to apply for naturalization after 3 years (minus 90 days) from the date my green card was issued, is that true?
At any rate, you must disclose this arrest when you file for naturalization. Keep copies of all the court documents.
Ian
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
Originally Posted by bantik2005
I am conditional resident (married to US citizen),
about three months ago, me and my spouse filed joint I-751 to remove condition from my green card, we've got NOA and biometrics letter (i went there in August), and havent heard anything from CIS since.
Do you guys think that "arrest" means automatic interview for I-751?
about three months ago, me and my spouse filed joint I-751 to remove condition from my green card, we've got NOA and biometrics letter (i went there in August), and havent heard anything from CIS since.
Do you guys think that "arrest" means automatic interview for I-751?
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
Originally Posted by ian-mstm
I'd be surprised if USCIS even knows about the arrest.
When we filed our I-751 there was a question if you have been arrested, so we checked YES to that question, and then we sent all certified copies of papers we've got from the court, including dismissal doc. So, USCIS knows about my arrest...
I was just wondering if anyone heard or experienced about cases like mine...
thanks
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bantik2005 wrote:
>>I'd be surprised if USCIS even knows about the arrest.
>>Yes, it's true... but not because your case was dismissed. It'd be
>>true whether or not you had ever been arrested. Applying for
>>naturalization 3 years less 90 days is allowed for all those who
>>became PRs based on their marriage to a USC.
>>At any rate, you must disclose this arrest when you file for
>>naturalization. Keep copies of all the court documents.
>>Ian
>
>
> Thank you,
> When we filed our I-751 there was a question if you have been arrested,
> so we checked YES to that question, and then we sent all certified
> copies of papers we've got from the court, including dismissal doc. So,
> USCIS knows about my arrest...
> I was just wondering if anyone heard or experienced about cases like
> mine...
> thanks
>
I know of a similar case with a J-1 visa. There was some delay and some
questioning, but in the end the visa was issued.
>>I'd be surprised if USCIS even knows about the arrest.
>>Yes, it's true... but not because your case was dismissed. It'd be
>>true whether or not you had ever been arrested. Applying for
>>naturalization 3 years less 90 days is allowed for all those who
>>became PRs based on their marriage to a USC.
>>At any rate, you must disclose this arrest when you file for
>>naturalization. Keep copies of all the court documents.
>>Ian
>
>
> Thank you,
> When we filed our I-751 there was a question if you have been arrested,
> so we checked YES to that question, and then we sent all certified
> copies of papers we've got from the court, including dismissal doc. So,
> USCIS knows about my arrest...
> I was just wondering if anyone heard or experienced about cases like
> mine...
> thanks
>
I know of a similar case with a J-1 visa. There was some delay and some
questioning, but in the end the visa was issued.
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
Originally Posted by bantik2005
Dear members,
I have a question and need your advise in my case please:
I have been arrested for shoplifting and spent a night in jail, then have been released, went to the public defender, pleaded not guilty.
judge ordered me to do 40 hrs of community work, pay $250 and to go to the pre-trial diversion program, he gave 4 months to complete all that, and after that he said that all charges would be dropped and case dismissed, I went to court after completing all and judge told me that I am "clean" and that the case was dismissed.
i completed all what i have been ordered, also i payed to the store and received release letter from them saying that they are releasing me from any claims.
I have been charged with:
a Misdemeanor, violation of section 1320(a)PC, conviction of which may result imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding six months, or by fine not exceeding One Thousand Dollars or by both.
i dont know if any of that makes any difference, that it was misdemeanor (petty theft) NOT a felony
So now my question:
I am conditional resident (married to US citizen),
about three months ago, me and my spouse filed joint I-751 to remove condition from my green card, we've got NOA and biometrics letter (i went there in August), and havent heard anything from CIS since.
Do you guys think that "arrest" means automatic interview for I-751?
Another question: When am I eligible to apply for naturalization? One lawyer told me that since I plead not guilty and the case was dismissed (and there was no conviction) that I would be eligible to apply for naturalization after 3 years (minus 90 days) from the date my green card was issued, is that true? is that possible? What papers do I need to prepare? I already got certified copies of all court minute dockets and sent along with our I-751.
I am so sorry for what has happened, and we just hope and pray to God that everything's gonna be ok with my papers, hopefully.
Thanks a lot in advance
PS: In CA you dont have to enter any plea in order to qualify for pre-trial diversion program.
I have a question and need your advise in my case please:
I have been arrested for shoplifting and spent a night in jail, then have been released, went to the public defender, pleaded not guilty.
judge ordered me to do 40 hrs of community work, pay $250 and to go to the pre-trial diversion program, he gave 4 months to complete all that, and after that he said that all charges would be dropped and case dismissed, I went to court after completing all and judge told me that I am "clean" and that the case was dismissed.
i completed all what i have been ordered, also i payed to the store and received release letter from them saying that they are releasing me from any claims.
I have been charged with:
a Misdemeanor, violation of section 1320(a)PC, conviction of which may result imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding six months, or by fine not exceeding One Thousand Dollars or by both.
i dont know if any of that makes any difference, that it was misdemeanor (petty theft) NOT a felony
So now my question:
I am conditional resident (married to US citizen),
about three months ago, me and my spouse filed joint I-751 to remove condition from my green card, we've got NOA and biometrics letter (i went there in August), and havent heard anything from CIS since.
Do you guys think that "arrest" means automatic interview for I-751?
Another question: When am I eligible to apply for naturalization? One lawyer told me that since I plead not guilty and the case was dismissed (and there was no conviction) that I would be eligible to apply for naturalization after 3 years (minus 90 days) from the date my green card was issued, is that true? is that possible? What papers do I need to prepare? I already got certified copies of all court minute dockets and sent along with our I-751.
I am so sorry for what has happened, and we just hope and pray to God that everything's gonna be ok with my papers, hopefully.
Thanks a lot in advance
PS: In CA you dont have to enter any plea in order to qualify for pre-trial diversion program.
It hasn't been an issue at all in my case - as the case was dismissed, there is no proof of guilt. I would say you'll be ok and not to worry about it. (Unless one of the lawyers on here can prove different.)
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
Originally Posted by Capt. Tuttle
I know of a similar case with a J-1 visa. There was some delay and some
questioning, but in the end the visa was issued.
was it within or outside of the states?
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
thanks, workboresme,
what was your status back then? did you plea guilty or not?
gracias
what was your status back then? did you plea guilty or not?
gracias
Originally Posted by workboresme
I was arrested (in CA) for domestic violence 4 years ago. I had to take anger management classes and 3 months of therapy and the judge dismissed my case (btw, the ex boyfriend totally deserved the slap I gave him).
It hasn't been an issue at all in my case - as the case was dismissed, there is no proof of guilt. I would say you'll be ok and not to worry about it. (Unless one of the lawyers on here can prove different.)
It hasn't been an issue at all in my case - as the case was dismissed, there is no proof of guilt. I would say you'll be ok and not to worry about it. (Unless one of the lawyers on here can prove different.)
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
Originally Posted by bantik2005
thanks, workboresme,
what was your status back then? did you plea guilty or not?
gracias
what was your status back then? did you plea guilty or not?
gracias
I never plead at all - the judge entered a plea of not guilty on my behalf.
I got lucky.
Don't beat your ex boyfriend up kids, it's not worth the worry! (but if you do, draw blood next time to make sure it's worth it!)
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
bantik2005 wrote:
>>bantik2005 wrote:
>>>>I'd be surprised if USCIS even knows about the arrest.
>>>>Yes, it's true... but not because your case was dismissed. It'd be
>>>>true whether or not you had ever been arrested. Applying for
>>>>naturalization 3 years less 90 days is allowed for all those who
>>>>became PRs based on their marriage to a USC.
>>>>At any rate, you must disclose this arrest when you file for
>>>>naturalization. Keep copies of all the court documents.
>>>>Ian
>>>Thank you,
>>>When we filed our I-751 there was a question if you have been
>>>arrested,
>>>so we checked YES to that question, and then we sent all certified
>>>copies of papers we've got from the court, including dismissal doc.
>>>So,
>>>USCIS knows about my arrest...
>>>I was just wondering if anyone heard or experienced about cases like
>>>mine...
>>>thanks
>>I know of a similar case with a J-1 visa. There was some delay and
>>some
>>questioning, but in the end the visa was issued.
>
>
> Thanks for you response,
> was it within or outside of the states?
>
The delays were all outside the U.S.A. Once the visa was issued the
person had no problem at all upon entry or when taking a short trip home.
>>bantik2005 wrote:
>>>>I'd be surprised if USCIS even knows about the arrest.
>>>>Yes, it's true... but not because your case was dismissed. It'd be
>>>>true whether or not you had ever been arrested. Applying for
>>>>naturalization 3 years less 90 days is allowed for all those who
>>>>became PRs based on their marriage to a USC.
>>>>At any rate, you must disclose this arrest when you file for
>>>>naturalization. Keep copies of all the court documents.
>>>>Ian
>>>Thank you,
>>>When we filed our I-751 there was a question if you have been
>>>arrested,
>>>so we checked YES to that question, and then we sent all certified
>>>copies of papers we've got from the court, including dismissal doc.
>>>So,
>>>USCIS knows about my arrest...
>>>I was just wondering if anyone heard or experienced about cases like
>>>mine...
>>>thanks
>>I know of a similar case with a J-1 visa. There was some delay and
>>some
>>questioning, but in the end the visa was issued.
>
>
> Thanks for you response,
> was it within or outside of the states?
>
The delays were all outside the U.S.A. Once the visa was issued the
person had no problem at all upon entry or when taking a short trip home.
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
Originally Posted by workboresme
I was arrested (in CA) for domestic violence 4 years ago. I had to take anger management classes and 3 months of therapy and the judge dismissed my case (btw, the ex boyfriend totally deserved the slap I gave him).
It hasn't been an issue at all in my case - as the case was dismissed, there is no proof of guilt. I would say you'll be ok and not to worry about it. (Unless one of the lawyers on here can prove different.)
It hasn't been an issue at all in my case - as the case was dismissed, there is no proof of guilt. I would say you'll be ok and not to worry about it. (Unless one of the lawyers on here can prove different.)
Do hope that you disclosed this information on all petitions that asked for criminal records and/or citations. Even though dismissed and as you so succinctly put it "as the case was dismissed, there is no proof of guilt" it still has to be disclosed. Non-disclosure could have repercussions that you won't want to have to deal with.
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
Originally Posted by Rete
Do hope that you disclosed this information on all petitions that asked for criminal records and/or citations. Even though dismissed and as you so succinctly put it "as the case was dismissed, there is no proof of guilt" it still has to be disclosed. Non-disclosure could have repercussions that you won't want to have to deal with.
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
good luck
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Re: CA arrest question, I-751 and N-400 questions
So far, despite your name, you haven't asked a single silly question, although you have responded to several posts in a most profound and thought provoking manner. I look forward to your next tidbit of drivel.
BTW, this post - to which you responded - is nearly a year old.
Ian
BTW, this post - to which you responded - is nearly a year old.
Ian
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So far, despite your name, you haven't asked a single silly question, although you have responded to several posts in a most profound and thought provoking manner. I look forward to your next tidbit of drivel.
BTW, this post - to which you responded - is nearly a year old.
Ian
BTW, this post - to which you responded - is nearly a year old.
Ian
Believe they just wanted to use the PM function. Need three posts to do that.