Best visa for me?
May 8th 2019, 5:39 pm
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Best visa for me?
Hi all, recently come across this forum and found a lot of resourceful information. I’m 23 year old male currently living with my parents and training (in work training) to become a lift engineer with my level 3 NVQ course.
Have visted the USA a fair few times when I was younger with my family and a few times since I was 18.
Have wanted to live / work since I come for the first time, just love the way they live life over here.
I work for a small company which is only based in the UK do a transferable VISA would not be a choice for me with this company.
My girlfriend who I have been with for a while now was originally born in Dublin but holds a UK passport. From what I have read online Dublin is not a part of the UK and she could enter the green card lottery? (Not sure if I have this mixed up?) would she need to apply for a Irish passport before doing so? She has been in the UK since the age of 4 and not been back since, could anyone shed some light?
Would it be better for me to pass my course (nvq3, not a degree) and change company’s to a bigger international company such a KONE and try get transferred with them? I’m aware you need to work for them for a minimum of 1 year.
Would it be better for me to try get a h1b visa (or another) while I still don’t have my qualifications? Not sure if would work better in my favour coming over as a trainee with experience in the field rather than fully qualified
also how would this any of these visas work with my spouse would we have to be married or could she come on a separate visa with me?
Tia
Have visted the USA a fair few times when I was younger with my family and a few times since I was 18.
Have wanted to live / work since I come for the first time, just love the way they live life over here.
I work for a small company which is only based in the UK do a transferable VISA would not be a choice for me with this company.
My girlfriend who I have been with for a while now was originally born in Dublin but holds a UK passport. From what I have read online Dublin is not a part of the UK and she could enter the green card lottery? (Not sure if I have this mixed up?) would she need to apply for a Irish passport before doing so? She has been in the UK since the age of 4 and not been back since, could anyone shed some light?
Would it be better for me to pass my course (nvq3, not a degree) and change company’s to a bigger international company such a KONE and try get transferred with them? I’m aware you need to work for them for a minimum of 1 year.
Would it be better for me to try get a h1b visa (or another) while I still don’t have my qualifications? Not sure if would work better in my favour coming over as a trainee with experience in the field rather than fully qualified
also how would this any of these visas work with my spouse would we have to be married or could she come on a separate visa with me?
Tia
May 8th 2019, 6:46 pm
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Re: Best visa for me?
The diversity visa (green card lottery) is based on an applicant's place of birth, and not her residence or current nationality. She would not need to first obtain an Irish passport.
You would not be likely to succeed in securing an H1B prior to finishing your course. Even after, as you point out, the course does not grant a degree and you would need to establish degree equivalency. As this is a more complicated application, you should consider retaining an attorney should you attempt that option.
If you change employers to a multinational corporation and work for a year, and convince them to relocate you to the US and sponsor you for an L1 visa, there is no degree requirement.
Each of the above visas has an accompanying spousal/dependent visa (H4 and L2) which you could apply for. Not all H4 holders are eligible for work authorization, however.
You would not be likely to succeed in securing an H1B prior to finishing your course. Even after, as you point out, the course does not grant a degree and you would need to establish degree equivalency. As this is a more complicated application, you should consider retaining an attorney should you attempt that option.
If you change employers to a multinational corporation and work for a year, and convince them to relocate you to the US and sponsor you for an L1 visa, there is no degree requirement.
Each of the above visas has an accompanying spousal/dependent visa (H4 and L2) which you could apply for. Not all H4 holders are eligible for work authorization, however.
May 8th 2019, 7:46 pm
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The diversity visa (green card lottery) is based on an applicant's place of birth, and not her residence or current nationality. She would not need to first obtain an Irish passport.
You would not be likely to succeed in securing an H1B prior to finishing your course. Even after, as you point out, the course does not grant a degree and you would need to establish degree equivalency. As this is a more complicated application, you should consider retaining an attorney should you attempt that option.
If you change employers to a multinational corporation and work for a year, and convince them to relocate you to the US and sponsor you for an L1 visa, there is no degree requirement.
Each of the above visas has an accompanying spousal/dependent visa (H4 and L2) which you could apply for. Not all H4 holders are eligible for work authorization, however.
You would not be likely to succeed in securing an H1B prior to finishing your course. Even after, as you point out, the course does not grant a degree and you would need to establish degree equivalency. As this is a more complicated application, you should consider retaining an attorney should you attempt that option.
If you change employers to a multinational corporation and work for a year, and convince them to relocate you to the US and sponsor you for an L1 visa, there is no degree requirement.
Each of the above visas has an accompanying spousal/dependent visa (H4 and L2) which you could apply for. Not all H4 holders are eligible for work authorization, however.
Thanks for the reply! I may have to look into another firm then, on the other hand am I right in saying if my spouse was born in Dublin she will be valid for the lottery?
May 8th 2019, 7:51 pm
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Yes, individuals born in Ireland are eligible.
May 8th 2019, 7:56 pm
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Correct, but she would need to be your spouse, not your girlfriend, for you to benefit from this if she entered and won.
May 8th 2019, 8:01 pm
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Re: Best visa for me?
If married, you could each apply separately for the DV lottery. As her spouse, you can apply via cross-chargeability. If one of you wins, you both get to go.
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May 8th 2019, 9:29 pm
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If one of you wins, you both get to go.
May 9th 2019, 2:47 pm
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Thanks for all the replies, been reading up on the DV lottery and think it’s the best option. Getting abit confused as on Wikipedia it says UK is not eligible (excluding n. Ireland). So could someone tell me would my spouse have to have been born in Dublin or Belfast to be elgiable? Also will school grades come into play when applying?
Tia
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May 9th 2019, 2:52 pm
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Either would give her eligibility, since NI is not excluded.
You have to have a high school level of education to apply I believe.
You have to have a high school level of education to apply I believe.
May 9th 2019, 3:03 pm
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So whilst Northern Ireland is part of the UK and the UK is excluded from the DV lottery, anyone born in Northern Ireland is still eligible for the DV lottery as a consequence of their de-facto Irish Nationality (whether or not they choose for formally assert it).
May 9th 2019, 3:04 pm
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Thanks for the quick reply! Will have to apply at the ends of this year and keep my fingers crossed
May 9th 2019, 3:08 pm
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Just for the record, the changes of success in the DV lottery are 0.003%
In 2018, there were 14.6 million primary entries (not including derivatives such as yourself from your wife) for 50,000 visas.
In total, including derivatives, the total was 23.08 million. Leading to a success rate of 0.0022%
Just showing you that you shouldn't get your hopes up. Not to mention that the DV lottery is a primary target for ending by this administration.
In 2018, there were 14.6 million primary entries (not including derivatives such as yourself from your wife) for 50,000 visas.
In total, including derivatives, the total was 23.08 million. Leading to a success rate of 0.0022%
Just showing you that you shouldn't get your hopes up. Not to mention that the DV lottery is a primary target for ending by this administration.
Last edited by civilservant; May 9th 2019 at 3:12 pm. Reason: Added depressing figures
May 9th 2019, 5:11 pm
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If we relied on odds, gambling wouldn't exist! - "so you are saying there's a chance?"
If you have the patience, NVQ3 is multiple A Level I think, so you could go on to degree level education and have a path in the future through employment - but we'd be talking years (even allowing for potential work/Uni courses that allow for credits based on work experience).
If you have the patience, NVQ3 is multiple A Level I think, so you could go on to degree level education and have a path in the future through employment - but we'd be talking years (even allowing for potential work/Uni courses that allow for credits based on work experience).
May 9th 2019, 5:14 pm
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One consequence of the Good Friday Agreement is that anyone born in Northern Ireland is able to assert their right to British Nationality, Irish Nationality or both as they see fit.
So whilst Northern Ireland is part of the UK and the UK is excluded from the DV lottery, anyone born in Northern Ireland is still eligible for the DV lottery as a consequence of their de-facto Irish Nationality (whether or not they choose for formally assert it).
So whilst Northern Ireland is part of the UK and the UK is excluded from the DV lottery, anyone born in Northern Ireland is still eligible for the DV lottery as a consequence of their de-facto Irish Nationality (whether or not they choose for formally assert it).
May 10th 2019, 3:49 am
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Just for the record, the changes of success in the DV lottery are 0.003%
In 2018, there were 14.6 million primary entries (not including derivatives such as yourself from your wife) for 50,000 visas.
In total, including derivatives, the total was 23.08 million. Leading to a success rate of 0.0022%
Just showing you that you shouldn't get your hopes up. Not to mention that the DV lottery is a primary target for ending by this administration.
In 2018, there were 14.6 million primary entries (not including derivatives such as yourself from your wife) for 50,000 visas.
In total, including derivatives, the total was 23.08 million. Leading to a success rate of 0.0022%
Just showing you that you shouldn't get your hopes up. Not to mention that the DV lottery is a primary target for ending by this administration.
The odds are not as bad as this- check the Maths, also Europeans' chances are likely better because of fewer applicants/quota.