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Old Nov 17th 2014, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by johnnybrown532
They say Adam Lanza had it and maybe Eliott Roger as well so they say others too on both sides of the atlantic
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I don't care what anyone says.
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They say Adam Lanza had it and maybe Eliott Roger as well so they say others too on both sides of the atlantic.
Lord and good sense preserve us from the fabled "they."
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Or any of the other random crap you've posted on this thread?
I wouldn't limit his crap to just this thread - he posts crap on a number of threads. There doesn't actually seem to be any thought process involved... he simply starts typing whatever is in his head. There's no filter.

Here's an example: "... singling out disabled people just seems so unamerican to me." He clearly has no idea what "un-American" means! So, why does he think this? I'm guessing it's because he's bought into the hype that the US is a panacea. It's almost as if he believes that whatever it is he's thinking about is somehow the truth... and that is a very scary thought!

I accept that he believes himself to be helping - but that's as far as I'll go.

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I think you have the wrong end of the stick there maybe Michael i think the child will probably live at the family home but will attend a special needs school as opposed to mainstream primary school he probably doesn't live in residential care home setting away from the rest of the family. There is likely a carer involved with the family to take the weight off them so to speak. I am unsure who would pay for that probably nhs.

In america everything would be dependent upon insurance coverage of course and the better the coverage the more the family will have to work with. I know under the Obamacare they can't deny coverage for pre existing conditions.
You have it in a nutshell. In the UK, there is a "care team" assigned to my grandson, not full-time folks, mind you, but, for some, a significant part of their week is helping the family manage our grandson. Again, in the UK, it's all about being "statement-ed". You have to have professionals draft up a statement of care/needs, and then the pieces fall into place. And you don't have to become destitute to obtain these services, though some are means-tested.

Only direct experience of the hard labour involved in caring for a severely autistic child can bring home the effort/costs involved. No thinking about it "in the abstract" can prepare you for it.

Because, it's premature yet to sort out what care in the USA might be, I haven't looked into it, except for conversations with locals here with autistic children. Some, speak very highly of the care/support they receive, without it bankrupting them.
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I'm not on the wrong end of the stick but trying to figure out what 24/7 means in his case. The US public schools are setup for autism children but if it is too severe, the school may not be able to handle it and the child may not be allowed to attend. Although there are government assistance programs for children with severe autism, many of those are for families with low incomes. In the US it is usually expected that family takes care of their child or parents but as a last resort, if they can't take care of them, they can either put them in an assisted care facility at a minimum cost of $7,000 per month which either the family pays for but if they can't, then the state will pick up the bill. If the person is an adult, then it is that person and their spouse's finances that determines who pays the bill.

If the UK the government will pick up the bill for providing 24/7 care whether with care givers or assisted living facilities, they might as well stay in the UK.

Autism on Public Assistance: Overview - Talk About Curing Autism (TACA)
The 24/7 care is distributed between the family and social services, including where respite to the family is provided by the child being kept overnight in a care home for autistic children, usually once a week; and sometimes care provided by a specialist in the home. In the UK, I believe much comes down to "post code lottery". Good services are available in their part of Devon, so they're lucky. Their experience could be different elsewhere in the UK, but as it is, they feel well supported.

Thanks for the link to US info on support for families with autism.
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I wouldn't limit his crap to just this thread - he posts crap on a number of threads. There doesn't actually seem to be any thought process involved... he simply starts typing whatever is in his head. There's no filter.

Here's an example: "... singling out disabled people just seems so unamerican to me." He clearly has no idea what "un-American" means! So, why does he think this? I'm guessing it's because he's bought into the hype that the US is a panacea. It's almost as if he believes that whatever it is he's thinking about is somehow the truth... and that is a very scary thought!

I accept that he believes himself to be helping - but that's as far as I'll go.

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He may well believe he is helping but doesn't even get facts right, quite apart from the unpleasant sentiments.

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Now lets call a spade a spade shall we it's mostly blacks killing blacks as sad as that is and as racist as it sounds it is how it is however and it doesn't really affect a white person's life does it apart from being in the papers?...

And quite rightly so perhaps after all aids was spread mostly by prostitution, drug use, unsafe sex and gays. Ironically though all aids sufferers probably lied to enter the U.S by not declaring they had the illness after all it would be very difficult to detect a person with aids entering the country short of customs finding hiv meds in their possessions at the airport...

The problem is over there they are living in filth over there so it is so easy for the disease to spread it wouldn't have the same impact in the west. It could have very bad side effects.


Amongst other weird advice like this to someone almost finished with a PhD:


So what would be wrong with pursuing a bachelors degree in computing/computer science/ computer programming would be that a possibility. Or would that be a no go because he holds PHD already and second degree qualification would be seen as inferior? Would that look suspect? Does U.S immigration require education to be progressive to issue a student visa?

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So many snobs here- lol! Great entertainment.
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The 24/7 care is distributed between the family and social services, including where respite to the family is provided by the child being kept overnight in a care home for autistic children, usually once a week; and sometimes care provided by a specialist in the home.
Under our insurance (and mild case of PDD), we got 8 hours per week of therapy. However, that was with at least one parent, not respite. His cousin, who has severe autism and can barely talk at 8 years old, gets 2-3 hours per day, every day, with weekdays of tuition/therapy and weekends just supervision (again, with parents present) to give them a bit of a breather.

Just a couple of examples of what the health insurance can provide but never is the phrase "YMMV" more applicable.
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Under our insurance (and mild case of PDD), we got 8 hours per week of therapy. However, that was with at least one parent, not respite. His cousin, who has severe autism and can barely talk at 8 years old, gets 2-3 hours per day, every day, with weekdays of tuition/therapy and weekends just supervision (again, with parents present) to give them a bit of a breather.

Just a couple of examples of what the health insurance can provide but never is the phrase "YMMV" more applicable.
The cousin's situation is more like my grandson (8 yrs old, can't speak, etc.), so it's good to know there are services here in CA. Anyway, as discussed in this thread and elsewhere, I've only just discovered, thanks to BE, that my daughter has a route to bring her son here no matter what his disabilities, so that's a big piece of info to digest. Also, she has a younger 22 month-old son. It's too early to know whether he will have any autism. Life is complicated... Thanks for the info about your cousin's CA experience. What county is the cousin's family in? We're in Santa Barbara County.
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The cousin's situation is more like my grandson (8 yrs old, can't speak, etc.), so it's good to know there are services here in CA. [...] Thanks for the info about your cousin's CA experience. What county is the cousin's family in? We're in Santa Barbara County.
They're in LA County I think. However, like us, they get their services through their health insurance, not through the county. That said, there are Regional Centers that can also help but I don't know much about them.
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They're in LA County I think. However, like us, they get their services through their health insurance, not through the county. That said, there are Regional Centers that can also help but I don't know much about them.
I'm still thinking like a Brit... health care through the County... more brain re-treading needed .
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