2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Apr 4th 2003, 10:51 am
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2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Confused
What (if anything) do I need to take to INS office to renew my expiring 2
year Green Card. Forms? Pictures?
This is Denver, Colorado INS office.
Thanks in advance
What (if anything) do I need to take to INS office to renew my expiring 2
year Green Card. Forms? Pictures?
This is Denver, Colorado INS office.
Thanks in advance
Apr 4th 2003, 12:09 pm
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Re: 2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Get form I-751 and supporting evidence together and get that filed with
your service centre in the 90 days leading up to your green card
expiring. Pays to do it early on in the 90 days too - so you can
continue to work legally.
MM wrote:
> Confused
> What (if anything) do I need to take to INS office to renew my expiring 2
> year Green Card. Forms? Pictures?
> This is Denver, Colorado INS office.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
your service centre in the 90 days leading up to your green card
expiring. Pays to do it early on in the 90 days too - so you can
continue to work legally.
MM wrote:
> Confused
> What (if anything) do I need to take to INS office to renew my expiring 2
> year Green Card. Forms? Pictures?
> This is Denver, Colorado INS office.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
Apr 4th 2003, 1:21 pm
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Re: 2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Originally posted by Mm
Confused
What (if anything) do I need to take to INS office to renew my expiring 2
year Green Card. Forms? Pictures?
This is Denver, Colorado INS office.
Thanks in advance
Confused
What (if anything) do I need to take to INS office to renew my expiring 2
year Green Card. Forms? Pictures?
This is Denver, Colorado INS office.
Thanks in advance
You are confused. You cannot renew your 2 year conditional green card. You should have been advised at the time of your AOS interview and approval that 90 days before the green card expires you are to file form I-751 with the service center tht governs your living jurisdiction. Along with the I-751 you will need to provide the service center with proof that you are still married and that you both are still commingling your lives socially and financially, etc.
Once you have filed your I-751 with the service center, they will send you an I-797 notice of action stating that your application has been received and your green card "privileges" have been extended for one year.
You can d/l the form on the BCIS website. In case you do not know, the INS is known as the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services. The URL for their site is:
http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/index.htm
The fee for filing is $145.
Rete
Apr 4th 2003, 2:06 pm
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Re: 2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Thanks for the info. Here is what confuses us. We have Form I-181 which
states "Satus as a lawful permanent resident of the United States is
accorded". The Green card (I-551) is listed as "Permanent resident card",
and expires in July of this year. Are there conditions on this card? 2
years ago the card was attatched to Form 1-797D and on the back of this form
it says the following. Your card has an expiration date. If you are a
conditional resident, apply to remove the conditions 90 days before your
card expires. If you are a permanent resident, the expiration date does not
affect your status, but you should use form I-90 to apply for a new card 90
days before this card expires.
I would like to double check to see if anyone has been through the Denver
system as it seems a little different than the rest of the IN..I mean BCIS
offices from the research we have done on the web, www.k1faq.com and other
sites.
Just seems silly to go through all this again with form I-751. Guess I can
point to my 7 month pregnant belly as proof of relationship
states "Satus as a lawful permanent resident of the United States is
accorded". The Green card (I-551) is listed as "Permanent resident card",
and expires in July of this year. Are there conditions on this card? 2
years ago the card was attatched to Form 1-797D and on the back of this form
it says the following. Your card has an expiration date. If you are a
conditional resident, apply to remove the conditions 90 days before your
card expires. If you are a permanent resident, the expiration date does not
affect your status, but you should use form I-90 to apply for a new card 90
days before this card expires.
I would like to double check to see if anyone has been through the Denver
system as it seems a little different than the rest of the IN..I mean BCIS
offices from the research we have done on the web, www.k1faq.com and other
sites.
Just seems silly to go through all this again with form I-751. Guess I can
point to my 7 month pregnant belly as proof of relationship
Apr 5th 2003, 2:57 am
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Re: 2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Originally posted by Mm
I would like to double check to see if anyone has been through the Denver
system as it seems a little different than the rest of the IN..I mean BCIS
offices from the research we have done on the web, www.k1faq.com and other
sites.
Just seems silly to go through all this again with form I-751. Guess I can
point to my 7 month pregnant belly as proof of relationship
I would like to double check to see if anyone has been through the Denver
system as it seems a little different than the rest of the IN..I mean BCIS
offices from the research we have done on the web, www.k1faq.com and other
sites.
Just seems silly to go through all this again with form I-751. Guess I can
point to my 7 month pregnant belly as proof of relationship
You have 90 days beginning sometime in April in which to send your I-751. Just keep that in mind...
Apr 5th 2003, 4:25 am
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Re: 2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Originally posted by Mm
Just seems silly to go through all this again with form I-751. Guess I can
point to my 7 month pregnant belly as proof of relationship
Just seems silly to go through all this again with form I-751. Guess I can
point to my 7 month pregnant belly as proof of relationship
Regardless of whether you think it is silly or not, the issue is whether you were given permanent resident or conditional permanent resident status at the time of your AOS interview.
The way to determine that is to tell us when you interviewed. Was it before your second wedding anniversary or after.
If before: then you were given CPR-# status. You will find that status in your passport under, near, around the I-551 stamp. It will also be shown by the fact that your green card expired two years from the date it was issued. For example the dates would show: expiration date: 7/30/03; resident from: 7/30/01. I just checked Jim's card and that is how the dates are listed.
If after: than you were given LPR-1 status and your dates would be expiration date: 7/30/11; resident from 7/30/01. Again your status is written, stamped, whatever some where near the I-551 in your passport.
Also you most likely received a letter from INS (as it was called then) stating your status.
I will tell you, being pregnant doesn't mean dwindly to the BCIS if you are a conditional permanent resident and fail to apply to remove conditions. You lose your status, you lose your rights to be here and will probably have to start all over again.
Being pregnant will help to confirm you are still married and living together. However, you will still have to give the BCIS what documentation they are requesting to support this fact when you send in the application. If you don't send evidence you are insuring a trip to the local BCIS office at some point when your I-751 is sent to them to schedule an interview to determine your legitimacy rather than the service center approving the application based on your evidence.
Rete
Apr 5th 2003, 5:17 am
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follow up question
I am in a similar situation. And the officer told me that I must file the
I-751 90 days before my wife's visa expires. So does that mean that her
permanent residency is unconditional indefinately? And at what point can
she apply for citizenship?
"Rete" wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Mm
> >
> > Just seems silly to go through all this again with form I-751.
> > Guess I can
> > point to my 7 month pregnant belly as proof of relationship
> >
> Mm
> Regardless of whether you think it is silly or not, the issue is whether
> you were given permanent resident or conditional permanent resident
> status at the time of your AOS interview.
> The way to determine that is to tell us when you interviewed. Was it
> before your second wedding anniversary or after.
> If before: then you were given CPR-# status. You will find that status
> in your passport under, near, around the I-551 stamp. It will also be
> shown by the fact that your green card expired two years from the date
> it was issued. For example the dates would show: expiration date:
> 7/30/03; resident from: 7/30/01. I just checked Jim's card and that is
> how the dates are listed.
> If after: than you were given LPR-1 status and your dates would be
> expiration date: 7/30/11; resident from 7/30/01. Again your status is
> written, stamped, whatever some where near the I-551 in your passport.
> Also you most likely received a letter from INS (as it was called then)
> stating your status.
> I will tell you, being pregnant doesn't mean dwindly to the BCIS if you
> are a conditional permanent resident and fail to apply to remove
> conditions. You lose your status, you lose your rights to be here and
> will probably have to start all over again.
> Being pregnant will help to confirm you are still married and living
> together. However, you will still have to give the BCIS what
> documentation they are requesting to support this fact when you send in
> the application. If you don't send evidence you are insuring a trip to
> the local BCIS office at some point when your I-751 is sent to them to
> schedule an interview to determine your legitimacy rather than the
> service center approving the application based on your evidence.
> Rete
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
I-751 90 days before my wife's visa expires. So does that mean that her
permanent residency is unconditional indefinately? And at what point can
she apply for citizenship?
"Rete" wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Mm
> >
> > Just seems silly to go through all this again with form I-751.
> > Guess I can
> > point to my 7 month pregnant belly as proof of relationship
> >
> Mm
> Regardless of whether you think it is silly or not, the issue is whether
> you were given permanent resident or conditional permanent resident
> status at the time of your AOS interview.
> The way to determine that is to tell us when you interviewed. Was it
> before your second wedding anniversary or after.
> If before: then you were given CPR-# status. You will find that status
> in your passport under, near, around the I-551 stamp. It will also be
> shown by the fact that your green card expired two years from the date
> it was issued. For example the dates would show: expiration date:
> 7/30/03; resident from: 7/30/01. I just checked Jim's card and that is
> how the dates are listed.
> If after: than you were given LPR-1 status and your dates would be
> expiration date: 7/30/11; resident from 7/30/01. Again your status is
> written, stamped, whatever some where near the I-551 in your passport.
> Also you most likely received a letter from INS (as it was called then)
> stating your status.
> I will tell you, being pregnant doesn't mean dwindly to the BCIS if you
> are a conditional permanent resident and fail to apply to remove
> conditions. You lose your status, you lose your rights to be here and
> will probably have to start all over again.
> Being pregnant will help to confirm you are still married and living
> together. However, you will still have to give the BCIS what
> documentation they are requesting to support this fact when you send in
> the application. If you don't send evidence you are insuring a trip to
> the local BCIS office at some point when your I-751 is sent to them to
> schedule an interview to determine your legitimacy rather than the
> service center approving the application based on your evidence.
> Rete
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Apr 5th 2003, 5:34 am
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Re: 2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Originally posted by Mm
Confused
What (if anything) do I need to take to INS office to renew my expiring 2
year Green Card. Forms? Pictures?
This is Denver, Colorado INS office.
Thanks in advance
Confused
What (if anything) do I need to take to INS office to renew my expiring 2
year Green Card. Forms? Pictures?
This is Denver, Colorado INS office.
Thanks in advance
http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/...iles/I-751.pdf
As everyone has said, you MUST file for removal of conditions if you have a 2 year greencard.
Many don't have a request for interview by their local office. They list what is required on the information part of the form, and if you make sure you send in all the requested info, you shouldn't have any problem.
Steve didn't have to go for an interview, just went up to Cleveland to have a I-551 stamp in his passport to tide him over till he got his 10 year GC in the mail after his application was approved. (You should get a NOA that extends your GC for a year in which time you should get your approval.)
Apr 5th 2003, 6:19 am
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Re: follow up question
Jenny and Chris wrote:
>
> I am in a similar situation. And the officer told me that I must file the
> I-751 90 days before my wife's visa expires. So does that mean that her
> permanent residency is unconditional indefinately? And at what point can
> she apply for citizenship?
You must file I-751 between 0 and 90 days before the expiration of the
Green Card/ PR status.
It has nothing to do with the expiration of any visa.
Permanent resident status after the I-751 is approved would be for life,
unless abandoned or taken away (criminal activity, or fraud in obtaining
the status). The card will need to be renewed every 10 years, but the
status doesn't expire in 10 years. If married and living with a US
citizen for 3 years, and being a permanent (even conditionally) resident
for 3 years (less 90 days), she can file N-400 for Naturalization. To be
eligible, she must not be out of the US for 6 months for a single
period) or 18 months total of the 3 year period.
For complete information, go to www.immigration.gov and look at "The
Guide To Naturalization"
>
> I am in a similar situation. And the officer told me that I must file the
> I-751 90 days before my wife's visa expires. So does that mean that her
> permanent residency is unconditional indefinately? And at what point can
> she apply for citizenship?
You must file I-751 between 0 and 90 days before the expiration of the
Green Card/ PR status.
It has nothing to do with the expiration of any visa.
Permanent resident status after the I-751 is approved would be for life,
unless abandoned or taken away (criminal activity, or fraud in obtaining
the status). The card will need to be renewed every 10 years, but the
status doesn't expire in 10 years. If married and living with a US
citizen for 3 years, and being a permanent (even conditionally) resident
for 3 years (less 90 days), she can file N-400 for Naturalization. To be
eligible, she must not be out of the US for 6 months for a single
period) or 18 months total of the 3 year period.
For complete information, go to www.immigration.gov and look at "The
Guide To Naturalization"
Apr 5th 2003, 8:38 am
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Re: follow up question
Originally posted by Jenny And Chris
I am in a similar situation. And the officer told me that I must file the
I-751 90 days before my wife's visa expires. So does that mean that her
permanent residency is unconditional indefinately? And at what point can
she apply for citizenship?
I am in a similar situation. And the officer told me that I must file the
I-751 90 days before my wife's visa expires. So does that mean that her
permanent residency is unconditional indefinately? And at what point can
she apply for citizenship?
Rete
Apr 5th 2003, 8:51 am
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Re: 2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Originally posted by Mm
The Green card (I-551) is listed as "Permanent resident card",
and expires in July of this year. Are there conditions on this card? 2
years ago the card was attatched to Form 1-797D and on the back of this form
it says the following. Your card has an expiration date. If you are a
conditional resident, apply to remove the conditions 90 days before your
card expires. If you are a permanent resident, the expiration date does not
affect your status, but you should use form I-90 to apply for a new card 90
days before this card expires.
The Green card (I-551) is listed as "Permanent resident card",
and expires in July of this year. Are there conditions on this card? 2
years ago the card was attatched to Form 1-797D and on the back of this form
it says the following. Your card has an expiration date. If you are a
conditional resident, apply to remove the conditions 90 days before your
card expires. If you are a permanent resident, the expiration date does not
affect your status, but you should use form I-90 to apply for a new card 90
days before this card expires.
Apr 5th 2003, 9:43 am
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Re: 2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Originally posted by Ranjini
Has anyone heard of a two year green card being issued to a permanent resident which wasn't conditional??? She does say it expires in July this year.... I am really confused
Has anyone heard of a two year green card being issued to a permanent resident which wasn't conditional??? She does say it expires in July this year.... I am really confused
Also the card form that held the card didn't mention status either. Just the same verbage as Mm's.
Perhaps Mm hasn't looked for or doesn't know what category the abbreviations stand for.
Hey Mm, help us out here ... what does it say under your category on the card.
Apr 5th 2003, 9:58 am
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Re: 2 year Green Card expiring Denver
Originally posted by Rete
No I haven't. But to satisfy my curiosity I have Jim's card in front of me. The card itself says "Permanent Resident Card" on the top in big bold letters. It is only under category that one sees what type of residency he has: CF1
Also the card form that held the card didn't mention status either. Just the same verbage as Mm's.
Perhaps Mm hasn't looked for or doesn't know what category the abbreviations stand for.
Hey Mm, help us out here ... what does it say under your category on the card.
No I haven't. But to satisfy my curiosity I have Jim's card in front of me. The card itself says "Permanent Resident Card" on the top in big bold letters. It is only under category that one sees what type of residency he has: CF1
Also the card form that held the card didn't mention status either. Just the same verbage as Mm's.
Perhaps Mm hasn't looked for or doesn't know what category the abbreviations stand for.
Hey Mm, help us out here ... what does it say under your category on the card.
And she had better get moving with getting her documents together because her pregnancy alone isn't going to get her conditions removed...
Apr 5th 2003, 6:49 pm
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Thanks a lot... One more thing
I understand exactly what you are saying and I read everything on the IRS
site. The only reason I'm confused is because the officer told me that she
could apply for naturalization 2 years and 9 months after we got married.
She didn't get her green card until we were already married 10 mos. And
sometimes the wording on the INS page leads me to believe that her
conditional residency status began when she came here. If we could cut 10
mos. off the process, then that would be great news. Thanks again, and I
wouldn't be confused at all if it were not for the officers comments to us.
Chris and Jenny
"Rete" wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Jenny And Chris
> > I am in a similar situation. And the officer told me that I must
> > file the
> > I-751 90 days before my wife's visa expires. So does that mean
> > that her
> > permanent residency is unconditional indefinately? And at what
> > point can
> > she apply for citizenship?
> >
> Her residency is conditional until a decision has been made on her
> I-751. She is eligible to apply for naturalization 2 years and 9 months
> from the date she become a [conditional] permanent resident. Whether or
> not the I-751 has been acted upon does not enter into it. The other
> conditions have been outlined by Mr. Travel.
> Rete
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
site. The only reason I'm confused is because the officer told me that she
could apply for naturalization 2 years and 9 months after we got married.
She didn't get her green card until we were already married 10 mos. And
sometimes the wording on the INS page leads me to believe that her
conditional residency status began when she came here. If we could cut 10
mos. off the process, then that would be great news. Thanks again, and I
wouldn't be confused at all if it were not for the officers comments to us.
Chris and Jenny
"Rete" wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Jenny And Chris
> > I am in a similar situation. And the officer told me that I must
> > file the
> > I-751 90 days before my wife's visa expires. So does that mean
> > that her
> > permanent residency is unconditional indefinately? And at what
> > point can
> > she apply for citizenship?
> >
> Her residency is conditional until a decision has been made on her
> I-751. She is eligible to apply for naturalization 2 years and 9 months
> from the date she become a [conditional] permanent resident. Whether or
> not the I-751 has been acted upon does not enter into it. The other
> conditions have been outlined by Mr. Travel.
> Rete
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Apr 5th 2003, 8:12 pm
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Re: Thanks a lot... One more thing
Originally posted by Jenny And Chris
I understand exactly what you are saying and I read everything on the IRS
site. The only reason I'm confused is because the officer told me that she
could apply for naturalization 2 years and 9 months after we got married.
She didn't get her green card until we were already married 10 mos. And
sometimes the wording on the INS page leads me to believe that her
conditional residency status began when she came here. If we could cut 10
mos. off the process, then that would be great news. Thanks again, and I
wouldn't be confused at all if it were not for the officers comments to us.
Chris and Jenny
1) You apply to have the conditions removed on the greencard after 1 yr and 9 months of it having been issued ( well 90 days before it is due to expire).
2) Naturalization - You can apply for Naturalization 2 years and 9 months after your Conditional Permanent residency was approved. ( This is my understanding even though the INA says 3 years - although they you cannot actually Naturalize until you have 3 years residency).
http://www.immigration.gov/lpBin/lpe...&id=slb-act319
http://www.immigration.gov/lpBin/lpe...&id=slb-act316
I think the officer may have been mixed up ?? Many sites ( even state dept ones) say ' 3 years residency and a permanent resident' which could be taken to mean 3 years from the time of filing I-130/I-485 and becoming a petitoning resident. The INA says :-
Sec. 319. [8 U.S.C. 1430]
(a) Any person whose spouse is a citizen of the United States, 1/ or any person who obtained status as a lawful permanent resident by reason of his or her status as a spouse or child of a United States citizen who battered him or her or subjected him or her to extreme cruelty, may be naturalized upon compliance with all the requirements of this title except the provisions of paragraph (1) of section 316(a) if such person immediately preceding the date of filing his application for naturalization has resided continuously, after being lawfully admitted for permanent residence, within the United States for at least three years, and during the three years immediately preceding the date of filing his application has been living in marital union with the citizen spouse 1/ (except in the case of a person who has been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty by a United States citizen spouse or parent), who has been a United States citizen during all of such period, and has been physically present in the United States for periods totaling at least half of that time and has resided within the State or the district of the Service in the United States in which the applicant filed his application for at least three months.
Which appears to me to mean 3 years residence after getting your GC - Conditional or otherwise.
"Rete" wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Jenny And Chris
> > I am in a similar situation. And the officer told me that I must
> > file the
> > I-751 90 days before my wife's visa expires. So does that mean
> > that her
> > permanent residency is unconditional indefinately? And at what
> > point can
> > she apply for citizenship?
> >
> Her residency is conditional until a decision has been made on her
> I-751. She is eligible to apply for naturalization 2 years and 9 months
> from the date she become a [conditional] permanent resident. Whether or
> not the I-751 has been acted upon does not enter into it. The other
> conditions have been outlined by Mr. Travel.
> Rete
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
I understand exactly what you are saying and I read everything on the IRS
site. The only reason I'm confused is because the officer told me that she
could apply for naturalization 2 years and 9 months after we got married.
She didn't get her green card until we were already married 10 mos. And
sometimes the wording on the INS page leads me to believe that her
conditional residency status began when she came here. If we could cut 10
mos. off the process, then that would be great news. Thanks again, and I
wouldn't be confused at all if it were not for the officers comments to us.
Chris and Jenny
1) You apply to have the conditions removed on the greencard after 1 yr and 9 months of it having been issued ( well 90 days before it is due to expire).
2) Naturalization - You can apply for Naturalization 2 years and 9 months after your Conditional Permanent residency was approved. ( This is my understanding even though the INA says 3 years - although they you cannot actually Naturalize until you have 3 years residency).
http://www.immigration.gov/lpBin/lpe...&id=slb-act319
http://www.immigration.gov/lpBin/lpe...&id=slb-act316
I think the officer may have been mixed up ?? Many sites ( even state dept ones) say ' 3 years residency and a permanent resident' which could be taken to mean 3 years from the time of filing I-130/I-485 and becoming a petitoning resident. The INA says :-
Sec. 319. [8 U.S.C. 1430]
(a) Any person whose spouse is a citizen of the United States, 1/ or any person who obtained status as a lawful permanent resident by reason of his or her status as a spouse or child of a United States citizen who battered him or her or subjected him or her to extreme cruelty, may be naturalized upon compliance with all the requirements of this title except the provisions of paragraph (1) of section 316(a) if such person immediately preceding the date of filing his application for naturalization has resided continuously, after being lawfully admitted for permanent residence, within the United States for at least three years, and during the three years immediately preceding the date of filing his application has been living in marital union with the citizen spouse 1/ (except in the case of a person who has been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty by a United States citizen spouse or parent), who has been a United States citizen during all of such period, and has been physically present in the United States for periods totaling at least half of that time and has resided within the State or the district of the Service in the United States in which the applicant filed his application for at least three months.
Which appears to me to mean 3 years residence after getting your GC - Conditional or otherwise.
"Rete" wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Jenny And Chris
> > I am in a similar situation. And the officer told me that I must
> > file the
> > I-751 90 days before my wife's visa expires. So does that mean
> > that her
> > permanent residency is unconditional indefinately? And at what
> > point can
> > she apply for citizenship?
> >
> Her residency is conditional until a decision has been made on her
> I-751. She is eligible to apply for naturalization 2 years and 9 months
> from the date she become a [conditional] permanent resident. Whether or
> not the I-751 has been acted upon does not enter into it. The other
> conditions have been outlined by Mr. Travel.
> Rete
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
