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Old Jul 14th 2010, 11:03 am
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Hi folks,

This topic has been touched on before but i need some advice more specific to my situation...

In February 2009 i was denied a B2 Visa because i couldn't prove economic ties to my country of residence (the UK)... I have since bought property in the UK...

I am planning on travelling back to the US in 3 weeks time for just 1 week and i'm preparing to fill out my ESTA application...

My question is, in the ESTA application where i am asked if i have ever had a visa rejected, am i better to lie and say "no" so that my application is approved and i can then argue my case upon arrival in the US...? I'm worried that if i admit to my visa rejection i will be automatically denied and have to apply for another B2 visa...

Please advise...

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Old Jul 14th 2010, 12:11 pm
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Do you really expect anyone here to suggest that you lie? Especially about something so easy for them to figure out? You need to be honest - just cause you had a denial will not necessarily prevent you from getting an ESTA.

Originally Posted by kungpowdow
Hi folks,

This topic has been touched on before but i need some advice more specific to my situation...

In February 2009 i was denied a B2 Visa because i couldn't prove economic ties to my country of residence (the UK)... I have since bought property in the UK...

I am planning on travelling back to the US in 3 weeks time for just 1 week and i'm preparing to fill out my ESTA application...

My question is, in the ESTA application where i am asked if i have ever had a visa rejected, am i better to lie and say "no" so that my application is approved and i can then argue my case upon arrival in the US...? I'm worried that if i admit to my visa rejection i will be automatically denied and have to apply for another B2 visa...

Please advise...
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Old Jul 14th 2010, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by kungpowdow
Hi folks,

This topic has been touched on before but i need some advice more specific to my situation...

In February 2009 i was denied a B2 Visa because i couldn't prove economic ties to my country of residence (the UK)... I have since bought property in the UK...

I am planning on travelling back to the US in 3 weeks time for just 1 week and i'm preparing to fill out my ESTA application...

My question is, in the ESTA application where i am asked if i have ever had a visa rejected, am i better to lie and say "no" so that my application is approved and i can then argue my case upon arrival in the US...? I'm worried that if i admit to my visa rejection i will be automatically denied and have to apply for another B2 visa...

Please advise...
how do you know for sure if your VWP is automatically denied after you declare on ESTA that you have a visa denied? Unless your name is on the watch list of terrorists,criminals...
Most VWP with history of visa being refused will be pending, it would be approved after 24 hours.
So i really dont suggest you lie to make it all easy with ESTA, if you get caught in U.S, you would be banned for years.
you can apply for multiple VWP's on one passport so you can try that . but the last VWP on your passport will over-ride the previous ones.
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You should lie on the ESTA and lie at the port of entry.
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Originally Posted by kungpowdow
My question is, in the ESTA application where i am asked if i have ever had a visa rejected, am i better to lie and say "no" so that my application is approved and i can then argue my case upon arrival in the US...?
What's your risk tolerance? If you lie, and get caught, you face a lifetime ban from the US. So... do you feel lucky?

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Originally Posted by Boiler
You should lie on the ESTA and lie at the port of entry.
Agreed. And if the officer gives him a hard time, he should demand to see the British consul straight away.
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Don't give the guy such a hard time!

I find that whenever I'm trying to decide whether to lie on an official government document it's best to ask strangers on the internet to help me make up my mind.
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What a bunch of pricks...!
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Originally Posted by kungpowdow
What a bunch of pricks...!
With all due respect, some lightweight browsing of existing threads on this forum should have given you some indication that the more experienced members have little patience for people who ask foolish questions. And your initial question was extremely foolish.

US Immigration Law does not exist to serve your purposes, it exists to keep people who the US considers inappropriate out of the country. If your ESTA is denied due to your previous B2 denial then suck it up and go and apply for another B2.
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Originally Posted by kungpowdow
HMy question is, in the ESTA application where i am asked if i have ever had a visa rejected, am i better to lie and say "no" so that my application is approved and i can then argue my case upon arrival in the US...? I'm worried that if i admit to my visa rejection i will be automatically denied and have to apply for another B2 visa......
NEVER LIE.

Thread closed.

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