Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
Jun 4th 2007, 12:49 pm
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
Well - you never can tell. I took off round Europe at age 18, backpacking for a year. By 21 I was living in the states. My elder sister emigrated here to Australia at the age of 20, having married an aussie she met whilst working in London. My younger brother James left home at 17, spent a year getting basic diving skills and then, when he was 18 went travelled his way down the west coast of the states and further on into South America, before settling on a tiny island called Utila off the east coast of Honduras - where he stayed for 12 years, before moving to Thailand for 18 months and just recently to Cairns. My younger brother Matthew moved to the tropical paradise of Swansea after getting his degree. My parents retired here to Australia in 2001.
There's a lot of exciting opportunites out there for people willing to go and find them - and they aren't all where mummy and daddy are.
There's a lot of exciting opportunites out there for people willing to go and find them - and they aren't all where mummy and daddy are.
Don't quite see how your family history relates to the Vorster situation though.
(but thanks for the background).
Jun 4th 2007, 12:55 pm
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
So if you knew that, despite how well you had settled, within the first two or three years of living in Oz, your adolescent children would leave you there and return to live in England, would you still go ahead and emigrate?
Jun 4th 2007, 1:07 pm
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
Jun 4th 2007, 1:11 pm
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Jun 4th 2007, 1:24 pm
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
So would I actually, I would ask them to stay to get citizenship and then they can go off and do what they want with their own lives - just as my parents let me leave home before I was 18 to live my own life.
We bring children into the world, we look after them, nurture them, guide them BUT we cannot tell them how to live forever. We can give them the tools to be the best person they can and to be able to look after themselves in any situation. We give them opportunities that we ourselves perhaps couldn't have. But we cannot live their lives for them.
Dom the Pom - don't be so judging of others - you may want your children to live with you for goodness knows how long - how do you know they haven't got a different idea?
And don't be so condescending sweetheart
We bring children into the world, we look after them, nurture them, guide them BUT we cannot tell them how to live forever. We can give them the tools to be the best person they can and to be able to look after themselves in any situation. We give them opportunities that we ourselves perhaps couldn't have. But we cannot live their lives for them.
Dom the Pom - don't be so judging of others - you may want your children to live with you for goodness knows how long - how do you know they haven't got a different idea?
And don't be so condescending sweetheart
Jun 4th 2007, 1:26 pm
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
Dom,
I think your question is unfair, no-one makes the decision to travel half-way around the world lightly,so you take all factors into consideration.One of the most heart-wrenching decisions would be to LET the kids go back, who knows whether they will change their minds (they are kids after all).
As a parent of 4 kids, not everything I do meets with the approval of all my kids or the OH,getting a concensus is difficult at the best of times!
The man made a judgement call and whether you think it is wrong or not is up to you-we all judge other people but I personally think you could cut him some slack...
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I think your question is unfair, no-one makes the decision to travel half-way around the world lightly,so you take all factors into consideration.One of the most heart-wrenching decisions would be to LET the kids go back, who knows whether they will change their minds (they are kids after all).
As a parent of 4 kids, not everything I do meets with the approval of all my kids or the OH,getting a concensus is difficult at the best of times!
The man made a judgement call and whether you think it is wrong or not is up to you-we all judge other people but I personally think you could cut him some slack...
Crocodileseamus
Jun 4th 2007, 1:39 pm
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
So would I actually, I would ask them to stay to get citizenship and then they can go off and do what they want with their own lives - just as my parents let me leave home before I was 18 to live my own life.
We bring children into the world, we look after them, nurture them, guide them BUT we cannot tell them how to live forever. We can give them the tools to be the best person they can and to be able to look after themselves in any situation. We give them opportunities that we ourselves perhaps couldn't have. But we cannot live their lives for them.
We bring children into the world, we look after them, nurture them, guide them BUT we cannot tell them how to live forever. We can give them the tools to be the best person they can and to be able to look after themselves in any situation. We give them opportunities that we ourselves perhaps couldn't have. But we cannot live their lives for them.
I'm talking about the Vorster's situation, which doesn't bear resemblance to any analogy on this thread so far.
Jun 4th 2007, 1:46 pm
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
So would I actually, I would ask them to stay to get citizenship and then they can go off and do what they want with their own lives - just as my parents let me leave home before I was 18 to live my own life.
We bring children into the world, we look after them, nurture them, guide them BUT we cannot tell them how to live forever. We can give them the tools to be the best person they can and to be able to look after themselves in any situation. We give them opportunities that we ourselves perhaps couldn't have. But we cannot live their lives for them.
We bring children into the world, we look after them, nurture them, guide them BUT we cannot tell them how to live forever. We can give them the tools to be the best person they can and to be able to look after themselves in any situation. We give them opportunities that we ourselves perhaps couldn't have. But we cannot live their lives for them.
My thoughts entirely. Of course I want my kids to stay with me. My kids want to go to Australia and I believe that I am doing the best for them, for now. Who knows what the future holds.
My family have moved around the world. My Dad to the Gambia, my older sister lived in Thailand for a few years, my younger sister lives in Spain. What opportunities and experiences they have all had, all would have been missed had they chosen to stay tied to the apron strings.
There is a very small group of people on this site who think they are so amazingly perfect, they feel within their rights to slag off anybody who doesn't conform to their way of thinking. I can't be arsed with all that and wont let it put me off coming on here and reading other peoples views and experiences
Jun 4th 2007, 1:47 pm
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
Jun 4th 2007, 1:57 pm
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
Well, I'm in my '40s, I figured I'd shown I could get by on my own by then. 
Because, you said "I'd hedge my bets one wouldn't move 14,000 miles away, let alone both of them." And I was merely pointing out that my entire family ****ed off to the four corners of the planet as soon as we possibly could, and that therefore it wasn't that unusual.
Because, you said "I'd hedge my bets one wouldn't move 14,000 miles away, let alone both of them." And I was merely pointing out that my entire family ****ed off to the four corners of the planet as soon as we possibly could, and that therefore it wasn't that unusual.
Jun 4th 2007, 2:27 pm
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
So yep - I'd still hedge my bets.
Jun 6th 2007, 11:35 am
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
Thank you Don the Pom for your narrow minded attitude!! You know nothing of our situation but still you judge us!! I do not need to explain myself to you it is pretty obvious that you have made your mind up!!
Thank you everyone else for your sensible mature outlook on life...obviously don the Pom is seriously lacking in these attributes!!
I will not be coming on the site again, as when i read don the poms judgment of Steve and myself it upset me greatly.
And for your information don the Pom my beautiful step children are now 18 and 22, they are very happy back in the UK as are we here in Australia!
You can take your uniformed judgment of myself and my wonderful husband and stick it where the sun don`t shine!!
And to every one else....i wish you all the best that life has to offer.
Thank you everyone else for your sensible mature outlook on life...obviously don the Pom is seriously lacking in these attributes!!
I will not be coming on the site again, as when i read don the poms judgment of Steve and myself it upset me greatly.
And for your information don the Pom my beautiful step children are now 18 and 22, they are very happy back in the UK as are we here in Australia!
You can take your uniformed judgment of myself and my wonderful husband and stick it where the sun don`t shine!!
And to every one else....i wish you all the best that life has to offer.
Jun 6th 2007, 11:39 am
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
Janine
Please dont stop posting on here, we all love to hear from you, we done the WDU programe and some people upset us, so I do know where you are coming from, but don't let people like that put you off, sorry I am typing really quick to try and catch you b4 you log off.
Keep in touch, its great to see you are all happy in life
Take care
Sarax
Please dont stop posting on here, we all love to hear from you, we done the WDU programe and some people upset us, so I do know where you are coming from, but don't let people like that put you off, sorry I am typing really quick to try and catch you b4 you log off.
Keep in touch, its great to see you are all happy in life
Take care
Sarax
Jun 6th 2007, 11:58 am
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Re: Update on the Vorsters/A new life down under
Janine
Please dont stop posting on here, we all love to hear from you, we done the WDU programe and some people upset us, so I do know where you are coming from, but don't let people like that put you off, sorry I am typing really quick to try and catch you b4 you log off.
Keep in touch, its great to see you are all happy in life
Take care
Sarax
Please dont stop posting on here, we all love to hear from you, we done the WDU programe and some people upset us, so I do know where you are coming from, but don't let people like that put you off, sorry I am typing really quick to try and catch you b4 you log off.
Keep in touch, its great to see you are all happy in life
Take care
Sarax
Ignore dom the pom, I know a couple of people have put complaints in to the moderators about him/her recently, I am sure that will be sorted out for you Janine.
Thank you for coming online Janine.