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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   The Update Forum (https://britishexpats.com/forum/update-forum-107/)
-   -   First weeks in Cairns (https://britishexpats.com/forum/update-forum-107/first-weeks-cairns-467381/)

wanderingwombat Mar 3rd 2008 10:59 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by wannabauzzienurse (Post 6014931)
Still chucking it down in Redlynch and if the roads get blocked I get paid a 'flood day!' if I can't get to work :thumbsup:

;)
The SES send out a multi-seater flood boat. Just wait at the bus stop.:rofl:

There is no way QH will let you have the day off!!:D

WW

youngy73 Mar 3rd 2008 11:00 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by wannabauzzienurse (Post 6014931)
Still chucking it down in Redlynch and if the roads get blocked I get paid a 'flood day!' if I can't get to work :thumbsup:

;)
you wont get flooded in there.

BethandAndrew Mar 3rd 2008 11:09 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by youngy73 (Post 6014974)
well my recent dabble with the uppers is over and i am now facing the cold sober realities of life. with recent interest rate rises and the rain and several large developers in cairns pulling the plug these are uncertain times. Hedley group has put a stop to a couple of major projects and cec group is suspending its housing operation. 10 houses a week to zero. overnight. how this will will all unfold is anyones guess. but the fact that we get 90% of our work from these two groups cannot be good. i think i need another script.
Is CEC Group in trouble then? :eek:
Can't believe our luck if they are :(
Beth x x :wub:

wanderingwombat Mar 3rd 2008 11:18 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by youngy73 (Post 6014974)
well my recent dabble with the uppers is over and i am now facing the cold sober realities of life. with recent interest rate rises and the rain and several large developers in cairns pulling the plug these are uncertain times. Hedley group has put a stop to a couple of major projects and cec group is suspending its housing operation. 10 houses a week to zero. overnight. how this will will all unfold is anyones guess. but the fact that we get 90% of our work from these two groups cannot be good. i think i need another script.
According to the paper CEC was just reducing overheads by introducing more effiecient plant.

A building industry slowdown has been slowly coming, maybe now things will just run on normal rather than the previous think of a really big number, double it and add a bit more building prices during the boom. I think it will hurt those in the building industry who went out and bought all those 'boys toys' on the basis of 'happy days are here again'. They will find they wont be able to afford the recently gained pleasures as they have to work the extra hours to maintain their income.

AS for Hedley they have so many signs across Cairns, that maybe they cant resource them all or they were marginal projects in the first place.

It will probably mean older properties will be renovated and upgraded to current standrads rather than let go in preference to a new build. There are a cople of hotels that fall into that category.

WW

wanderingwombat Mar 3rd 2008 11:23 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by BethandAndrew (Post 6015038)
Is CEC Group in trouble then? :eek:
Can't believe our luck if they are :(
Beth x x :wub:
There was something in the paper about the exorbitant costs they were facing bring large migrant families to the country. :rofl::rofl:

WW

youngy73 Mar 3rd 2008 11:27 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by BethandAndrew (Post 6015038)
Is CEC Group in trouble then? :eek:
Can't believe our luck if they are :(
Beth x x :wub:
who knows? they have just had another project on false cape go tits up aswell. various reports in the media and lots of speculation but who knows. i guess we will all know in the next few months. various factors are going to affect a lot of companies and there employees in the year ahead. interest rates are the big one. im not sure how cairns or whether cairns property will de value. building costs are so high it costs you virtually what the property will be worth when finished. ie. build cost $500,000. house value $500,000 to $550,000. the cost of materials is inlikely to drop and labour costs have not increased significantly in recent times so what will happen nobody knows.

youngy73 Mar 3rd 2008 11:30 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by wanderingwombat (Post 6015083)
According to the paper CEC was just reducing overheads by introducing more effiecient plant.

A building industry slowdown has been slowly coming, maybe now things will just run on normal rather than the previous think of a really big number, double it and add a bit more building prices during the boom. I think it will hurt those in the building industry who went out and bought all those 'boys toys' on the basis of 'happy days are here again'. They will find they wont be able to afford the recently gained pleasures as they have to work the extra hours to maintain their income.

AS for Hedley they have so many signs across Cairns, that maybe they cant resource them all or they were marginal projects in the first place.

It will probably mean older properties will be renovated and upgraded to current standrads rather than let go in preference to a new build. There are a cople of hotels that fall into that category.

WW
why renovate a hotel.strength of the $ = fewer tourists.

youngy73 Mar 3rd 2008 11:32 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
[QUOTE=wanderingwombat;6015083]According to the paper CEC was just reducing overheads by introducing more effiecient plant.

i suppose you have to try and protect your share price.

wannabauzzienurse Mar 3rd 2008 11:42 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by wanderingwombat (Post 6014979)
There is no way QH will let you have the day off!!:D

WW
You're probably right :sneaky:

you wont get flooded in there.
Bummer :thumbdown: You're probably right too, my usual route through Freshwater is under water but there's two other options unforuneately
:)

wannabauzzienurse Mar 3rd 2008 11:45 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by youngy73 (Post 6015133)
who knows? they have just had another project on false cape go tits up aswell. various reports in the media and lots of speculation but who knows. i guess we will all know in the next few months. various factors are going to affect a lot of companies and there employees in the year ahead. interest rates are the big one. im not sure how cairns or whether cairns property will de value. building costs are so high it costs you virtually what the property will be worth when finished. ie. build cost $500,000. house value $500,000 to $550,000. the cost of materials is inlikely to drop and labour costs have not increased significantly in recent times so what will happen nobody knows.
i suppose that false cape development going tits up has nothing to do with crap health and safety standards and the death of a worker under a large rock late last year :ohmy:

wanderingwombat Mar 3rd 2008 11:53 pm
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
[QUOTE=youngy73;6015165]
Originally Posted by wanderingwombat (Post 6015083)
According to the paper CEC was just reducing overheads by introducing more effiecient plant.

i suppose you have to try and protect your share price.
Tilt up panels are not really suited for houses. The level of finish for a house is quite different for a warehouse. Co-ordination of services and panel accuracy are critical. Efficiency comes through volume & Cairns isnt a big enough market to get the volume. It's not the first time panels have been tried and wont be the last.

I suspect they will have 'supply problems' with the plant and quietly abandon the idea.

WW

wanderingwombat Mar 4th 2008 12:04 am
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by wannabauzzienurse (Post 6015230)
i suppose that false cape development going tits up has nothing to do with crap health and safety standards and the death of a worker under a large rock late last year :ohmy:
Steep hillsides around here are held together with boulders and rainforest trees. Remove one and it all starts to unravel. False Cap is a case in point. It may have been intended as a millionaire's haven however the land development costs must have been horrendous which would have priced it out of the market.

WW

youngy73 Mar 4th 2008 6:53 am
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by wannabauzzienurse (Post 6015230)
i suppose that false cape development going tits up has nothing to do with crap health and safety standards and the death of a worker under a large rock late last year :ohmy:
your right. that had nothing to do with it. cec are just the contractors. the people with thew money are in the shit.

Big Sky Mar 4th 2008 7:05 am
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Cairns is a really beautiful place and does have a lot going for it but do you ever feel isolated?
BS:)

Big Sky Mar 4th 2008 7:11 am
Re: First weeks in Cairns
 
Originally Posted by youngy73 (Post 6014974)
well my recent dabble with the uppers is over and i am now facing the cold sober realities of life. with recent interest rate rises and the rain and several large developers in cairns pulling the plug these are uncertain times. Hedley group has put a stop to a couple of major projects and cec group is suspending its housing operation. 10 houses a week to zero. overnight. how this will will all unfold is anyones guess. but the fact that we get 90% of our work from these two groups cannot be good. i think i need another script.
That's bit worrying for OH job propsects!:ohmy: Looks like I will find work but he will just have to be a man of leisure!:rofl:
BS;)


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