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Old Jun 17th 2007, 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by busterboy
Hello all that know me and all that don't. I used to post regularly on the forum but with all this emigrating milarky, I am afraid that I have not been posting much of late. I have promised my old chums an update and here it is. For those that don't know me I generally try to be funny on the forum and stay away from arguments...that's my online character anyway. In real life I am an average, fairly reserved Scottish person and what you are about to read is not about TFN numbers or dolphins!

A little bit of background
Firstly, I have no idea what brought me to Australia, it was no one thing just a wish to try something different. After years of different locations in the UK, building a career, meeting friends, getting drunk in different bars my OH and I decided to go on a reccie to Australia as his sister was here and having a really good time of it. The upshot of the reccie was that he loved it and I was unsure. We got married and after one too many bad summers and evenings avoiding bottle weilding chavs, we finally decided to put in our application. Fine, all well and good. I then changed jobs, got promoted, had a child, changed location, was pretty settled and then wouldn't you know it...the visa was granted.

After much to-ing and fro-ing, time of expats, research and meet-ups, we decided we were really going to go for it. After all, you are only as young as you are today and what have you got to lose? Many sad goodbyes later we were off to Melbourne.

Our first three months
The flight had a huge anti-climax, a real sense of the unreal....I suppose it is the adrenalin, last minute stress , last minute stress comedown and stress to come! Arriving to nothing after an organised life is one of life's big questioning dramas. Life on a blow up mattress on someone else's rental floor is quite a sobering reality....as is the moment where you realise that you don't know anywhere or anyone, have no concept of the size of most Australian cities, have no network of professional friends and your career to date is pretty much ignored.

We toured many truely crap rentals...if flock wallpaper and spiders webs and dead gardens are your thing...feel happy...you have finally arrived in paradise. Finally we found something in a good middle class suburb miles on the train line from the CBD. I found a job in my fairly specialised field in one week (through a vague contact) and my husband found a job a week later. We also found great child care a week later. We earn exactly what we earned in the UK, which by Australian standards is very good. We can afford to eat out often and are not scared to spend cash. Our lifestyle is fortunate and we know that we are very lucky compared to some equally deserving people on this forum who have not been afforded some of the luck that we have had. We go away most weekends and are lucky to live in very close proximity to some fabulous places even for a day break.

The reality of life so far
No matter how well we are doing, with many of the real life battles that other people are facing that we are not facing, I have felt a crushing sense of loss. I have felt intensely emotional and vulnerable. I have worried about all that has been and is in the past, the people I will not see again, the elderly relatives, the grandparents who will not see their grandchild nearly enough. It is an amazing blow to the ego to start a career 5 years back from where you left it. The language is English but the jargon is not the same. The journey to work 3 hours there and back is huge. It is colder than I thought it would be. I miss my child who spends longer in daycare than he ever did in Britain. My life is not as cushy as it was in the UK, it is certainly not as easy as it was in the UK. I miss the old me, I miss our old life, I am in short.... homesick. I feel a stranger in a strange land. A new person, a newbie, starting a new life at 36.

The challenge - if you choose to accept it - is?
The challenge is knowing if this a phase, whether pushing through it and establishing more roots is the right thing ie the permanent job, the home, the cars, the school or whether to run back to what is known while it is still there to reclaim. I don't know the answer. For us, it will be the press ahead regardless, things will get better approach. Everyone I have spoken with has said this is the most difficult year and I believe this to be classic homesickness. It certainly does not feel so 'certainly' bad that I am rushing to book a plane ticket home.

I hope this hasn't seemed to self indulgent. I just wanted to post a post that was not all doom and gloom nor 'yeh, our lives have magically been transformed' but somewhere in the middle. Australia has lived up to its promises so far, for us at least. This for me has been much more than a physical journey but a hugely emotional one and a very confusing one too. It might be for you.

I know that there are many posters out there who are concerned about some of these same issues and how they will cope and how they are coping. There is an element of BE that stops people expressing these types of posts as the responses can be cruel. I don't care if posters are cruel, I am just trying to demonstrate how terribly complex this whole experience can be and I am one of the lucky ones.

I hope this wasn't boring.... it was more me than anything I have written on BE before or probably again.

Best of luck to you all

BB
Thanks for that open & honest account, it was a great read.

Best of luck with your future, hope the roots you make are strong ones.

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Your post isn't boring in the least. I enjoyed reading it and also gives us Aus wannabes a taster of whats to come. I found myself choking back a lump in throat at the thought of being homesick and missing family etc. And we havn't even left yet!! I Know its gonna be hard as you have found and I'm sure many people will agree that are in the same boat as you. Keep at it and I'm sure it'll all come good in the end.

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Fab post Busterboy.. very honest.
I think you're lucky to be able to get a job in your chosen career.. my chosen (although I didn't choose it, it just kinda happened) career is slowly slipping away... BUT I now work for myself.. doing a fairly boring but physical job .. so now I have thighs of steel so every cloud an all that...

I hope you start to feel more settled and less of a newbie soon.

And it'll soon be the shortest day - so then that means that summer is coming and it'll start warming up again.. then I can put my jeans n jumpers back in the robe and get out my shorts again!!! yay!

Keep smiling, hun
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What a fantastic post. I hope it all works out for you.
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hi i have just really started using BE as we have just began the visa process, My family and I are moving to melbourne also. possibly the frankston area??
It brings us back down to earth a little to read what people who have actually moved have to say. which i think is good, as if you think its all sun and fun then perhaps we are in for a shock.
hopefully you may be able to help with info on melbourne for us.
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Hi BB

Great post mate.
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Originally Posted by denise6372
Thanks for that open & honest account, it was a great read.

Best of luck with your future, hope the roots you make are strong ones.

Denise
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Feel for you BB - we came back to UK after 3 months as our house sale fell through but we were desperatey homesick too. Very hard to describe to people the feeling of homesickness especially as we were so excited to get our visa's and start a new life but you explained it perfectly in your post. Funnily enough we now plan to go back out in the New Year (lucky we've got PR visa's) and our house has finally sold. Think we've got the homsickness thing out of our system ......... but watch this space!

Wish you and your family all the best - thinkingof you!

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Superb thread! Very, very well written. Nearly everything in there is how I imagine it to go for us when finally go later this year. I'm not expecting a 'utopian paradise' and I know it's going to be extremely difficult for a while.

Missing the 'norm' back home is probably the biggest thing I dread, but having been stuck in a rut for so long here, I need the complete change even if it all went belly up, just to get myself out of whatever it is I do / don't feel at the moment.

Good luck BB, stick with it. If life was so easy what would you have to wake up to in the morning.

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Great post BB.

Honest, informative and 'real' - very refreshing!
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Originally Posted by busterboy
Hello all that know me and all that don't. I used to post regularly on the forum but with all this emigrating milarky, I am afraid that I have not been posting much of late. I have promised my old chums an update and here it is. For those that don't know me I generally try to be funny on the forum and stay away from arguments...that's my online character anyway. In real life I am an average, fairly reserved Scottish person and what you are about to read is not about TFN numbers or dolphins!

A little bit of background
Firstly, I have no idea what brought me to Australia, it was no one thing just a wish to try something different. After years of different locations in the UK, building a career, meeting friends, getting drunk in different bars my OH and I decided to go on a reccie to Australia as his sister was here and having a really good time of it. The upshot of the reccie was that he loved it and I was unsure. We got married and after one too many bad summers and evenings avoiding bottle weilding chavs, we finally decided to put in our application. Fine, all well and good. I then changed jobs, got promoted, had a child, changed location, was pretty settled and then wouldn't you know it...the visa was granted.

After much to-ing and fro-ing, time of expats, research and meet-ups, we decided we were really going to go for it. After all, you are only as young as you are today and what have you got to lose? Many sad goodbyes later we were off to Melbourne.

Our first three months
The flight had a huge anti-climax, a real sense of the unreal....I suppose it is the adrenalin, last minute stress , last minute stress comedown and stress to come! Arriving to nothing after an organised life is one of life's big questioning dramas. Life on a blow up mattress on someone else's rental floor is quite a sobering reality....as is the moment where you realise that you don't know anywhere or anyone, have no concept of the size of most Australian cities, have no network of professional friends and your career to date is pretty much ignored.

We toured many truely crap rentals...if flock wallpaper and spiders webs and dead gardens are your thing...feel happy...you have finally arrived in paradise. Finally we found something in a good middle class suburb miles on the train line from the CBD. I found a job in my fairly specialised field in one week (through a vague contact) and my husband found a job a week later. We also found great child care a week later. We earn exactly what we earned in the UK, which by Australian standards is very good. We can afford to eat out often and are not scared to spend cash. Our lifestyle is fortunate and we know that we are very lucky compared to some equally deserving people on this forum who have not been afforded some of the luck that we have had. We go away most weekends and are lucky to live in very close proximity to some fabulous places even for a day break.

The reality of life so far
No matter how well we are doing, with many of the real life battles that other people are facing that we are not facing, I have felt a crushing sense of loss. I have felt intensely emotional and vulnerable. I have worried about all that has been and is in the past, the people I will not see again, the elderly relatives, the grandparents who will not see their grandchild nearly enough. It is an amazing blow to the ego to start a career 5 years back from where you left it. The language is English but the jargon is not the same. The journey to work 3 hours there and back is huge. It is colder than I thought it would be. I miss my child who spends longer in daycare than he ever did in Britain. My life is not as cushy as it was in the UK, it is certainly not as easy as it was in the UK. I miss the old me, I miss our old life, I am in short.... homesick. I feel a stranger in a strange land. A new person, a newbie, starting a new life at 36.

The challenge - if you choose to accept it - is?
The challenge is knowing if this a phase, whether pushing through it and establishing more roots is the right thing ie the permanent job, the home, the cars, the school or whether to run back to what is known while it is still there to reclaim. I don't know the answer. For us, it will be the press ahead regardless, things will get better approach. Everyone I have spoken with has said this is the most difficult year and I believe this to be classic homesickness. It certainly does not feel so 'certainly' bad that I am rushing to book a plane ticket home.

I hope this hasn't seemed to self indulgent. I just wanted to post a post that was not all doom and gloom nor 'yeh, our lives have magically been transformed' but somewhere in the middle. Australia has lived up to its promises so far, for us at least. This for me has been much more than a physical journey but a hugely emotional one and a very confusing one too. It might be for you.

I know that there are many posters out there who are concerned about some of these same issues and how they will cope and how they are coping. There is an element of BE that stops people expressing these types of posts as the responses can be cruel. I don't care if posters are cruel, I am just trying to demonstrate how terribly complex this whole experience can be and I am one of the lucky ones.

I hope this wasn't boring.... it was more me than anything I have written on BE before or probably again.

Best of luck to you all

BB
Lovely post honey, I know things are tough, but you guys are just as tough.


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hope things work out in the end

im sure they will.
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Hi

sounds like you are very realistic

I hope things work out well for you and the home sickness lessens
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I have just joined BE after a few months lurking (although I belong to other forums) and this is my first post. I have read the original posting about 12 times now and I have to say I thought I was the only person in Australia to feel like the lady who wrote it so in one way it's good to see I'm not but in another it is sad that other people feel lost and lonely too.

I have been in Perth for 4 months now and the words 'intensely emotional and vulnerable' and having a 'crushing sense of loss' could have been written by myself only I don't think I could be that articulate.

Unfortunately I have now been diagnosed with depression - something I never thought would happen to me.

I don't hate Perth, Australia or the people - in fact I have found the majority of people helpful and friendly. The problem is me and my terrible feeling of homesickness and all that I have left behind and can never get back.

I have no idea what the future holds for myself and my family - I can only hope I get over the way I feel. I'm not looking for advice on whether to go home or not - I know that only I can make the decision that is right for me.

Sorry this has been a bit of a ramble but I feel better for putting it in words.

Thanks for listening.
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Originally Posted by saffron
I have just joined BE after a few months lurking (although I belong to other forums) and this is my first post. I have read the original posting about 12 times now and I have to say I thought I was the only person in Australia to feel like the lady who wrote it so in one way it's good to see I'm not but in another it is sad that other people feel lost and lonely too.

I have been in Perth for 4 months now and the words 'intensely emotional and vulnerable' and having a 'crushing sense of loss' could have been written by myself only I don't think I could be that articulate.

Unfortunately I have now been diagnosed with depression - something I never thought would happen to me.

I don't hate Perth, Australia or the people - in fact I have found the majority of people helpful and friendly. The problem is me and my terrible feeling of homesickness and all that I have left behind and can never get back.

I have no idea what the future holds for myself and my family - I can only hope I get over the way I feel. I'm not looking for advice on whether to go home or not - I know that only I can make the decision that is right for me.

Sorry this has been a bit of a ramble but I feel better for putting it in words.

Thanks for listening.
Hi Saffron....welcome

You definately arent alone in your feelings, thats for sure.
Dont say the problem is you though - that means your blaming yourself for feeling as you do, annoying though it may be.
Have you tried the St Johns Wort people have mentioned, it is good.
I really hope you begin to feel better soon
lots of love
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Hi Saffron....welcome

You definately arent alone in your feelings, thats for sure.
Dont say the problem is you though - that means your blaming yourself for feeling as you do, annoying though it may be.
Have you tried the St Johns Wort people have mentioned, it is good.
I really hope you begin to feel better soon
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Great post BB, very articulate.

I'm pretty new to BE and can't remember how I found it or what I was looking for as I've been here 10 yrs, but have found some great threads.

I truly believe your homesickness is a phase, although I know from my own experience it can seem overwhelming. I think most of us are aware that we will feel homesick but actually being in the middle of it is another thing. Personally, I found the first 6 months here fantastic -then reality hit. It was exhausting just living day to day as you keep coming up against things you thought you knew how to do! (You know, really complicated things like going to the doctors, LOL).

2 years in and my OH was offered a job back in UK so we went back at Christmas and started planning our new life back in UK. That job didn't actually come about for various reasons, but it did show me that I really didn't want to be back in England and gave me strength to carry on back in Oz. That was a turning point for me, the realisation that I had rose tinted specs about my former life - being back in UK at Christmas (which was when I missed everything most) for a few weeks was enough.

Our lives have not been a bed of roses, we have been faced with many challenges but I would not trade them for anything. I still feel homesick sometimes (it gets less and less as the yrs go by) but am happy to live with it in exchange for what I have here.

Good luck for the future.
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