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Old Jul 3rd 2008, 6:58 pm
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Talking to another UK truck driver today, he was telling me he has paid a lot of money to an (So Called Agent) he explained a lot, duly I have directed him to report this to the UK Canadian Consulate.

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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm...tice-fraud.asp
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Originally Posted by bigwheels241
Talking to another UK truck driver today, he was telling me he has paid a lot of money to an (So Called Agent) he explained a lot, duly I have directed him to report this to the UK Canadian Consulate.

All should read this :

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm...tice-fraud.asp

& This

'Double dipping' with foreign workers to be made illegal:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/prince-edwa...eign-brow.html
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'Double dipping' with foreign workers to be made illegal:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/prince-edwa...eign-brow.html
Got another who paid a so called guaranteed employment fee, and got ripped off.

People who charge for a (Hyper) JOB in canada should be arrested, different if its to apply for Visas but they can learn a lot from read this and other forums and asking consulate directly via email.
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Hi there,

New to all this so please forgive me, My husband and i are looking at an agent and in total for assistance for the 4 of us is anything up to £9,000 .Is it really a no no to use an agent??

Any advise greatly apprecited.

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Hi there,

New to all this so please forgive me, My husband and i are looking at an agent and in total for assistance for the 4 of us is anything up to £9,000 .Is it really a no no to use an agent??

Any advise greatly apprecited.

Debbie
It's not so much of a no-no as a "don't throw away thousands on something you can easily do yourself"
The whole process is quite easy and straightforward, you just have to check all your paperwork 3 times. The immigration section of expats is invaluable.
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Originally Posted by debbieeasby
Hi there,

New to all this so please forgive me, My husband and i are looking at an agent and in total for assistance for the 4 of us is anything up to £9,000 .Is it really a no no to use an agent??

Any advise greatly apprecited.

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Debs,

Welcome to this section of BE. Just a few things to say & I'm NOT sorry for repeating myself:

NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER

Use an agency there is absolutely NO NEED to use one.

As has been mentioned the paperwork is quite straight forward and all the info an agency will require YOU are going to have to supply it anyway so why would you pay someone £9000 to send something off for you. Even after paying £9000 NOBODY not the agency not anyone can give you a 100% guarantee you will be successful in gaining Permanant Residency (PR) THE ONLY department who will make that decision are the Canadian Gov Departments you have to deal with and submit your application to they have the final say in giving you your PR visa's.

Thats justa quick heads up and my opinion gotta go as it's OH's Birthday today and can't sit on here all night.....will got lynched

Any other Q's fire away and we can answer them for you & don't worry everyone on here is helpful.....except BT but we think Hs's done a runner....
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Spoke to lots of UK truck drivers out here and not one of them used an agent including myself , All the trucking companies are well used to the process by now and will guide you all the way

<think BT as finally succumbed to the fact that moving out to Canada as a truck driver isn't that bad after all >
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I knew deep down really but just needed the reasurance !!

Thanks for the replies.

Talk again soon got so much to ask

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I knew deep down really but just needed the reasurance !!

Thanks for the replies.

Talk again soon got so much to ask

Debbie
Agree, never pay for a simple thing that you are able to acheive by easy reading the guidelines and use the net forums to gain answers or email the Canadian Consulate direct, they are good to assist.
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hi
all. i have an offer from bisontransport.till now it is all good the problem was they direct mi two an emigration attorney and he wont 1000 cnd$ and after that he wont onother 7000$ can somebody work mi thru the process what should i ask to bisontransport the point is what should i do without peing that big amount of many.please check my attach items,and what they attorney wont.
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hi
all. i have an offer from bisontransport.till now it is all good the problem was they direct mi two an emigration attorney and he wont 1000 cnd$ and after that he wont onother 7000$ can somebody work mi thru the process what should i ask to bisontransport the point is what should i do without peing that big amount of many.please check my attach items,and what they attorney wont.
hi there is no other way into bison transport as an immigrant ,you have to use fred hilf and his immigration friends firm unless you are a canadian resident and have your pr bison will not recruit you direct themselves they will send you through there foreign recruiter fred hilf. good luck
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hi there is no other way into bison transport as an immigrant ,you have to use fred hilf and his immigration friends firm unless you are a canadian resident and have your pr bison will not recruit you direct themselves they will send you through there foreign recruiter fred hilf. good luck
I Went Through Fred And His Associates yes $8000 is a lot of money but worth every cent.
Bison has such a good reputation they want to protect it hence insisting you go through a legal firm to make sure its all done correctly.
I have heard some horror stories from drivers with other companies who did it the cheap way all i can say is im very happy with Bison fair pay, treated well, as much home time as i want etc.
The $8000 was the best money i have ever spent in my life.

All i can say to those who did it the cheap way is good luck to you but dont keep bashing Fred He is a genuine man, he was very helpful he did not just get us here then leave on our own, he was invalueable in the first few weeks with help and advice on any topic you can think of all i had to do was pick up the phone.

And to those of you thinking about coming over dont discount Bison + Fred if you can afford to use Freds Services you would be well advised to seriously consider it, as you all know anything legal can get very complicated.

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I Went Through Fred And His Associates yes $8000 is a lot of money but worth every cent.
Could you info us as to what they did for you for $8000 which you could not do yourself?

Bison has such a good reputation they want to protect it hence insisting you go through a legal firm to make sure its all done correctly.
I don't understand how you completing your own PR application would damage Bisons reputation?

I have heard some horror stories from drivers with other companies who did it the cheap way
What is the cheap way - Completing the applications yourself?

dont keep bashing Fred He is a genuine man, he was very helpful he did not just get us here then leave on our own, he was invalueable in the first few weeks with help and advice on any topic you can think of all i had to do was pick up the phone.
I don't doubt he is all the people we met while in Canada all were hence one our main reasons to move there..


as you all know anything legal can get very complicated
Again sorry don't understand this bit. Did you have legal complications in regards to your PR application.

Not knocking you just don't quite understand what you mean.
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yes $8000 is a lot of money but worth every cent.
Bison has such a good reputation they want to protect it hence insisting you go through a legal firm to make sure its all done correctly.
What a load of cods wallop.

90% anyone with a clean record and an existing LGV driver can do it, you may as well go piss 7k at the local boozer.

Middle men make you pay and bleed.

The Consulate even frown upon them, wake up you lot.:curse:
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all. i have an offer from bisontransport.till now it is all good the problem was they direct mi two an emigration attorney and he wont 1000 cnd$ and after that he wont onother 7000$ can somebody work mi thru the process what should i ask to bisontransport the point is what should i do without peing that big amount of many.please check my attach items,and what they attorney wont.
Here is an extract from that First Canada letter you posted:

My comments are hypa and only meant this way but what if is true !

- meeting you at the airport and arranging your initial hotel accommodations at a preferred rate

Fred and his team get a free meal at the Motel price you pay….

- assisting in opening your Canadian bank account

We can all walk into any bank and do the same

- obtaining social insurance cards for you and your family

Oh yes easy to obtain at any SS Office

- obtaining provincial health cards for you and your family

Obtain a doctor, they will do this for you

- introduction to employer and orientation program

Note: (To employer) must be only one they refer to for 8,000 that’s an expensive employer meeting

- assistance in changing your class 5 Driver’s license to a provincial license

Depending on the Provence your in you just walk in and arrange a booking


- assistance in setting up your testing for class 1 license including providing you with the manuals to study for the test

License place has this list for you and the books

- assistance in finding accommodation

1001 estate agents will meet you at airport and be glad to arrange accomadation

- assistance in renting a car where required

Avis / Hertz and 100 more in the yellow pages or airport info desk

- References to reputable professionals (German speaking if required) such as real estate agents, accountants, doctors, dentists, lawyers, etc.

German? Thought it was British we are talking about.

- assistance in enrolling in English language course where required

Oh no, there is that learn the pommy lingo again

- assistance with general orientation including matching you with a local family where requested

Matchmaking – what’s this an escort agency or what
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