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Old Dec 29th 2022, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Jack_Russells4ever
Pulaski, I have nothing to say to your opinion(s). They are not mine. You have made it your goal to attack almost every comment I have made in the past year. Respectfully I ask you to not respond to my post .in the future. Have a nice day.
[1] It was a question, not an opinion. I am not sure how you made the leap from "question" to "attack".

[2] This is a public forum, and neither you nor I get to determine what gets posted, as long as posts are civil.

[3] If you don't expect people to reply to your posts, sometimes with questions, and sometimes with contrary opinions, I am not sure why you would post on a public forum.

As you said, have a nice day!

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Originally Posted by Jack_Russells4ever
Pulaski, Tell me how well oulawing firearms worked in the UK,.
Actually, pretty damn well.

Compare the gun death rates of the UK to the US. You also have to bear in mind that the cultures are completely different, as are the histories, so banning almost all gun ownership in the UK was a far different proposition to doing the same in the US.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
as long as posts are civil.
Does that include rolling eye smilies?
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Does that include rolling eye smilies?
Emoticons are open to interpretation. I like to leave that up to the reader.
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Originally Posted by Jack_Russells4ever
Pulaski, Tell me how well oulawing firearms worked in the UK, Outlawing child porn has not stopped the problem. .....
OK, thank you. So now you appear to agree with me, that different problems that society faces need different solutions, and that sometimes a ban does work, and sometimes a ban is appropriate even if it doesn't work.

That wasn't so hard, now was it?
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
.... hence the argument for legalising it all. It's worth trying. I frankly don't see how the situation could get any worse. ...
Agreed.
... Won't happen of course, not any time soon. ....
Also with this.

The war on drugs has, by almost any measure, failed, and the only ones who appear to be benefitting are the ones who are still fighting it.
..... Another place to start is with alleviating social and economic deprivation. The kids running the county lines in the UK aren't the ones doing well at school and going home to a comfortable family life..... People will make money illegally if they cannot find or hope for a legal future for themselves that will allow them to do well.
Agreed. Applying only sticks isn't going to work. Carrots are also necessary, but that isn't a story that the hard line law and order lobby want to hear.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Agreed.

Also with this.

The war on drugs has, by almost any measure, failed, and the only ones who appear to be benefitting are the ones who are still fighting it.

Agreed. Applying only sticks isn't going to work. Carrots are also necessary, but that isn't a story that the hard line law and order lobby want to hear.

Who are you, and what have you done with Pulaski?














But yes, complex situations require multi-faceted solutions, and in particular political will.

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Who are you, and what have you done with Pulaski?



....
It's Christmas, season of good will and all that .... I am an anti-Pulaski.

Normal service may be resumed in the New Year.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
It's Christmas, season of good will and all that .... I am an anti-Pulaski.

Normal service may be resumed in the New Year.

Schrodinger's Pulaski.


Little Miss P must be softening you up.
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Schrodinger's Pulaski. ...
Don't look in the box!
.... Little Miss P must be softening you up.
Today we went shopping for records, in a record shop, which is an experience I never thought I would get to enjoy with my daughter, as until recently that ship seemed to have sailed at least 25 years ago.

Little Miss P's tastes might not fully overlap with mine, though she did express regret over lunch after learning that she would never get to see "Turn the Page" played live, as Bob Seger stopped touring three years ago. The moral of the tale being "don't turn down an offer from Dad to take you to a concert, as you might regret it later".

Coincidentally, I saw Bob Seger for the first time on his farewell tour, but it was the support band, Grand Funk Railroad, that tipped the balance and persuaded me to buy a ticket.

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Originally Posted by Pulaski
I don't disagree with any of your post, but the current situation is a lot more complicated now that most US states have legalized marijuana on some level, and several, including most notably California, have legalized it for recreational use. The problem is in those states marijuana has switched from being a prohibition & supply issue to being a tax fraud racketeering issue, where criminals are willing to supply un-taxed marijuana* for less than it would cost to buy legal weed.

In California, this problem is exacerbated by the permitting process, which requires a legal dispensary to be approved by the municipality in which it will operate, and something like two thirds of municipalities in California are refusing to approve permits for any dispensaries, so for all intents and purposes, legally approved, taxed marijuana is unavailable.

For context, trafficking of cigarettes remains an issue in the US, primarily the transport of cigarettes from Native American reservations where the tax is low, for illegal sale in markets far from a reservation.

* IIRC in the spring of 2022 an illegal marijuana farm and processing center in California was raided and over $2bn, yes billion, of untaxed contraband marijuana was seized.
California was the first state in the country to approve medical marijuana in 1996; sadly it's rollout of 'recreational use' in 2016 was not so great - in order to guarantee passage of the bill, they made it more attractive to voters by allowing cities and counties to essentially 'opt out' of legal sales (no city or county can prohibit personal possession / use / growth / delivery, however - just commercial sales / production). My local city has declined to approve a single 'brick and mortar' permit for a marijuana store, but I can easily get 'delivery'; there's a whole new cottage industry of delivery services bringing marijuana to my door, and the prices seem comparable. There is a lot of disappointment in how the legalization has rolled out, and there are moves to improve the situation.

I would note, as a casual 'recreational' user, the price of totally legal marijuana is not bad at all; it may be more than illegal marijuana, but I was shocked at how cheap, and long-lasting, a legal purchase was. And by buying legally, you are guaranteeing a quality product free of pesticides, and with well-defined ingredients.

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I agree the situation in the US in regards to marijuana in general is not great. However, it seems the US is far ahead of most other countries in the world, at least on paper. At least medical marijuana is now legal in a majority of states - more than can be said for most of the world. And consider 'CBD' (CBD is a component of marijuana that has various benefits and does not produce a 'high'). CBD is available 'everywhere' these days, in the US. I saw on a 'travel' forum recently about the legality of possessing "CBD" in various world locations - it's virtually impossible to acquire CBD legally anywhere (outside the US), and possession of it can land you in jail, big-time, in most European countries - Is CBD Legal Worldwide? List Of Countries Where CBD Is Legal | The Extract
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Don't look in the box!

Today we went shopping for records, in a record shop, which is an experience I never thought I would get to enjoy with my daughter, as until recently that ship seemed to have sailed at least 25 years ago.

Little Miss P's tastes might not fully overlap with mine, though she did express regret over lunch after learning that she would never get to see "Turn the Page" played live, as Bob Seger stopped touring three years ago. The moral of the tale being "don't turn down an offer from Dad to take you to a concert, as you might regret it later".

Coincidentally, I saw Bob Seger for the first time on his farewell tour, but it was the support band, Grand Funk Railroad, that tipped the balance and persuaded me to buy a ticket.

I read the other day that sales of vinyl have overtaken sales of cds Records are back, even if they have things like Taylor Swift on them.

As for Mr. Seger - well, roll me away.

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I read the other day that sales of vinyl have overtaken sales of cds Records are back, even if they have things like Taylor Swift on them.

As for Mr. Seger - well, roll me away.
That’s probably also a function of CD sales being replaced by streaming.
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"guns make us safer". Or maybe not...

"Six-year-old intentionally shot teacher in Virginia school, police say"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...t-shot-teacher
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"guns make us safer". Or maybe not...

"Six-year-old intentionally shot teacher in Virginia school, police say"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...t-shot-teacher
Just for a second I thought that said "Redneck elementary".
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