WTF in America
#8431
Re: WTF in America
"Cancel culture" and "identity politics" are being presented to us as if they are new phenomena, when they have been with us us for decades, centuries, millennia. What we have, is similar to the way the privileged are seeing moves towards equality as being oppression. We are seeing a slight tilt of the cancel fulcrum from one form to another from. It is the conservative sphere that has taken up the use of both phrases, even if not the coinage. It is them that are singing this song, that they have never sung before, when it was happening before their eyes, their entire lives, their parents lives and their grandparents and on and on.
Women being fired for getting pregnant is/was cancel culture
Gay people having beards for fear of their livelihood and/or safety is/was cancel culture
Transgender individuals only going to certain specific places is/was cancel culture
Jeremy Thorpe was cancel culture
Everything before Margaret Thatcher being PM was cancel culture
Alan Turing was cancel culture
George Eliot was cancel culture
Sally Hemings was cancel culture
Galileo was cancel culture
But we can pretend this tiny shift is a completely new phenomena, and blame those not like us for it.
#8432
Re: WTF in America
Indeed!
And of course, this isn't just "WTF in America" ... it's WTF in the World
But still ... can anyone explain why the media is supposed to be complicit in these various conspiracies? Whether it's 5G or C-19, what is the reasoning for assuming the news media would 'play along'? They have such a rich and recent history of being at odds with 'authority', as evidenced by (eg) Watergate. I just wish there was a way to engage someone in such a debate, but I can't find a meaningful venue.
And of course, this isn't just "WTF in America" ... it's WTF in the World
But still ... can anyone explain why the media is supposed to be complicit in these various conspiracies? Whether it's 5G or C-19, what is the reasoning for assuming the news media would 'play along'? They have such a rich and recent history of being at odds with 'authority', as evidenced by (eg) Watergate. I just wish there was a way to engage someone in such a debate, but I can't find a meaningful venue.
I saw this meme recently, it may even have been here on BE. Being an internet meme I have no idea if it is correctly attributed to Bill Murray, but it is scarily true no matter who said it.
Last edited by Pulaski; Aug 5th 2020 at 9:56 pm.
#8433
Re: WTF in America
I assume it's becuase the media has, quite rightly, debunked almost all of the coronavirus conspiracy nonsense, and the sort of idiots who believe all the coronavirus conspiracy nonsense are exactly the same idiots that can't distinguish between "debunking nonsense" and "defending, because they are part of the conspiracy".
I saw this meme recently, it may even have been here on BE. Being an internet meme I have no idea if it is correctly attributed to Bill Murray, but it is scarily true no matter who said it.
I saw this meme recently, it may even have been here on BE. Being an internet meme I have no idea if it is correctly attributed to Bill Murray, but it is scarily true no matter who said it.
#8434
Re: WTF in America
If the conspiracy people I know are anything alike then she's probably thinking 'time for a nice cup of tea and biscuits'...
#8436
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#8437
Re: WTF in America
In retrospect, I should have just gone full-on rude and said 'the thumb up bum and mind in neutral type'. Subtlety zero, comprehension total.
#8438
Re: WTF in America
Yeah, I think so - they are carrying on "as normal" oblivious to anyone trying to talk any sense into them. ..... There are none so deaf as those who refuse to hear.
#8439
Re: WTF in America
Not sure its the best place to discuss cancel culture either but as it gets a mention here.....
"Cancel culture" and "identity politics" are being presented to us as if they are new phenomena, when they have been with us us for decades, centuries, millennia. What we have, is similar to the way the privileged are seeing moves towards equality as being oppression. We are seeing a slight tilt of the cancel fulcrum from one form to another from. It is the conservative sphere that has taken up the use of both phrases, even if not the coinage. It is them that are singing this song, that they have never sung before, when it was happening before their eyes, their entire lives, their parents lives and their grandparents and on and on.
Women being fired for getting pregnant is/was cancel culture
Gay people having beards for fear of their livelihood and/or safety is/was cancel culture
Transgender individuals only going to certain specific places is/was cancel culture
Jeremy Thorpe was cancel culture
Everything before Margaret Thatcher being PM was cancel culture
Alan Turing was cancel culture
George Eliot was cancel culture
Sally Hemings was cancel culture
Galileo was cancel culture
But we can pretend this tiny shift is a completely new phenomena, and blame those not like us for it.
"Cancel culture" and "identity politics" are being presented to us as if they are new phenomena, when they have been with us us for decades, centuries, millennia. What we have, is similar to the way the privileged are seeing moves towards equality as being oppression. We are seeing a slight tilt of the cancel fulcrum from one form to another from. It is the conservative sphere that has taken up the use of both phrases, even if not the coinage. It is them that are singing this song, that they have never sung before, when it was happening before their eyes, their entire lives, their parents lives and their grandparents and on and on.
Women being fired for getting pregnant is/was cancel culture
Gay people having beards for fear of their livelihood and/or safety is/was cancel culture
Transgender individuals only going to certain specific places is/was cancel culture
Jeremy Thorpe was cancel culture
Everything before Margaret Thatcher being PM was cancel culture
Alan Turing was cancel culture
George Eliot was cancel culture
Sally Hemings was cancel culture
Galileo was cancel culture
But we can pretend this tiny shift is a completely new phenomena, and blame those not like us for it.
#8440
Re: WTF in America
OK, so cancel culture has been going on for a long while; you make a compelling argument. And, cancel culture has always been bad - another compelling argument made. The inescapable conclusion to that is, the current cancel culture is equally bad. So - Cancel Culture is a bad thing; good to hear.
#8441
Re: WTF in America
The problem is people self-identifying as a victims. There are a lot of self-identified "victims" out there at the moment that society does not broadly agree are victims.
#8442
Re: WTF in America
Absolutely yet again. We have actual Nazis being fired, complaining about cancel culture, when few businesses can afford to be associate with such people. Then there are the showbiz entertainers who cant pull enough viewers blaming their demise on cancel culture. You can sense Bill Maher has been planing this excuse for years, ever since Politically Incorrect.
#8443
Re: WTF in America
My daughter works with an Australian (weird that) woman whose parents are German/Australian. She's never lived outside Australia. She is adamant that:
1. Trump is the best President ever.
2. He is the one telling the truth.
3. COVID isn't real.
4. Created so people can be controlled by governments.
5. The poisons are in the masks
6. Vaccines are dangerous.
7. Bill Gates is planning world domination by way of COVID vaccine.
My daughter doesn't speak to her so we don't know about her views on Chemtrails but we can take a guess.
The woman wore a mask the first day they were suggested. She had to take it off as she was getting a migraine from lack of oxygen and poisons in the mask.
She talks about this stuff daily to anyone who can't get away or who fancies a laugh. This shit is not funny.
1. Trump is the best President ever.
2. He is the one telling the truth.
3. COVID isn't real.
4. Created so people can be controlled by governments.
5. The poisons are in the masks
6. Vaccines are dangerous.
7. Bill Gates is planning world domination by way of COVID vaccine.
My daughter doesn't speak to her so we don't know about her views on Chemtrails but we can take a guess.
The woman wore a mask the first day they were suggested. She had to take it off as she was getting a migraine from lack of oxygen and poisons in the mask.
She talks about this stuff daily to anyone who can't get away or who fancies a laugh. This shit is not funny.
#8444
Re: WTF in America
1. Trump is the best President ever.
2. He is the one telling the truth.
3. COVID isn't real.
4. Created so people can be controlled by governments.
5. The poisons are in the masks
6. Vaccines are dangerous.
2. He is the one telling the truth.
3. COVID isn't real.
4. Created so people can be controlled by governments.
5. The poisons are in the masks
6. Vaccines are dangerous.
She's never lived outside Australia
(Oh and this isn't just Australia, I was complaining about Trumps 'it is what it is' comment yesterday and one of my colleague agreed that there was nothing else to be done, so he was right, we just have to live with it)
#8445
Re: WTF in America
I assume that several of these are because of this:
My sister also lives in Australia having moved from the UK a couple of years back. I'll send her to this women, she'll set her straight
(Oh and this isn't just Australia, I was complaining about Trumps 'it is what it is' comment yesterday and one of my colleague agreed that there was nothing else to be done, so he was right, we just have to live with it)
My sister also lives in Australia having moved from the UK a couple of years back. I'll send her to this women, she'll set her straight
(Oh and this isn't just Australia, I was complaining about Trumps 'it is what it is' comment yesterday and one of my colleague agreed that there was nothing else to be done, so he was right, we just have to live with it)