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Old Feb 4th 2015, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
If you read the report of the interview it was clearly a "throw away example" and not part of a serious suggestion. The point he was making that there are some regulations ghat could be relaxed so long as customers are aware of what the business is doing. ..... See my earlier example about the FDIC.
Yes, I've read it too. Could be read either way. If he truly meant it as a throw away example, he should have chosen more wisely. Though to be honest, most business regulations have a really good reason for existing and really aren't much of a burden to the honest business owner.
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.... to be honest, most business regulations have a really good reason for existing and really aren't much of a burden to the honest business owner.
Agreed, though an example of where the public can and do choose between a cheaper uninsured/ unlicenced vendor and a more expensive "bonded and insured" alternative is in the home repair business. Both operate alongside each other, and homeowners know that there is less protection if they have work done by a "handyman".
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Agreed, though an example of where the public can and do choose between a cheaper uninsured/ unlicenced vendor and a more expensive "bonded and insured" alternative is in the home repair business. Both operate alongside each other, and homeowners know that there is less protection if they have work done by a "handyman".
It's interesting here that by law a 'handyman' cannot charge any more than $500 for a job. Makes for entertaining conversations.

In addition you can refuse to pay an unlicensed contractor and they have no right to sue.

On the negative side, a licensed contractor can place a lien on your home for unpaid bills. Even if you have paid, even if you have proof you paid.
When placing a lien the validity of the lien is not determined and can lead to a lengthy legal process in order to remove the lien.
The right for contractors to place a lien, even if based on a lie, is sacrosanct and cannot be prevented.

The irony is on the CA Contractors Board website there is an article entitled How To Prevent a Mechanic's Lien. Which is nonsense because there is no legal process whereby you can prevent a lien being placed.

http://www.cslb.ca.gov/Consumers/Leg...nics_Lien.aspx

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It's interesting here that by law a 'handyman' cannot charge any more than $500 for a job. Makes for entertaining conversations.

In addition you can refuse to pay an unlicensed contractor and they have no right to sue.

On the negative side, a licensed contractor can place a lien on your home for unpaid bills. Even if you have paid, even if you have proof you paid.
When placing a lien the validity of the lien is not determined and can lead to a lengthy legal process in order to remove the lien.
The right for contractors to place a lien, even if based on a lie, is sacrosanct and cannot be prevented.

The irony is on the CA Contractors Board website there is an article entitled How To Prevent a Mechanic's Lien. Which is nonsense because there is no legal process whereby you can prevent a lien being placed. ....
So more reasons to go the DIY route as often as possible.
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Moar tools...
You can never have too many!
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You can never have too many!
Unless you happen to be an electrician - there is an unwritten law that they shall be able to fit all their tools in a box no larger than a child's lunchbox and thus all other trades shall be liable to lend them useful tools to enable completion of their jobs!!
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You can never have too many!
That depends on how you define tools. Hammers and shit, you can keep but these:



That's a different story ...
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That depends on how you define tools. Hammers and shit, you can keep but these:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...0defdaed14c1fe

That's a different story ...
The one on the left needs to be thrown into the street and run over. Horrid little annoying twiddly thing.
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Horrid little annoying twiddly thing.
Hey..Sultan's a decent chap
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
If you read the report of the interview it was clearly a "throw away example" and not part of a serious suggestion. The point he was making that there are some regulations ghat could be relaxed so long as customers are aware of what the business is doing. ..... See my earlier example about the FDIC.
Then clearly there aren't all that many regulations for small businesses that can be relaxed or he would have used one of them. It's just more politician waffle that is used to get votes despite not having any grounding in reality. From what I hear from small businesses, things like simplifying payroll would help much more, but it doesn't open the back door to allow companies to pollute or treat employees like crap, in the same way as removing regulations.
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The one on the left needs to be thrown into the street and run over. Horrid little annoying twiddly thing.
I need that one for Maggie May ...
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That depends on how you define tools. Hammers and shit, you can keep but these:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...0defdaed14c1fe

That's a different story ...
What's the coal scuttle for. P1ss pot, spittoon, or tips?
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What's the coal scuttle for. P1ss pot, spittoon, or tips?
Tips. I don't bring that, the other guy does.
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I need that one for Maggie May ...
I rest my case.
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