WTF in America

Old Nov 3rd 2021, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Culture of violence, culture of fear. And permission to act on both. Two sides, one coin.
Don't forget revenge. They've got a fetish for revenge. Can't just let things go, got to get your pathetic little justice boner.
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Don't forget revenge. They've got a fetish for revenge. Can't just let things go, got to get your pathetic little justice boner.

Justice and revenge are so far apart on the meaning scale that it's impossible to show them on the same page. And yet, here we are in the Middle Ages, performing (botched) executions of elderly men who've been in prison for 20+ years and shooting people who are turning around in your driveway.
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Justice and revenge are so far apart on the meaning scale that it's impossible to show them on the same page. And yet, here we are in the Middle Ages, performing (botched) executions of elderly men who've been in prison for 20+ years and shooting people who are turning around in your driveway.
We live in a boring dystopia.
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For once I am lost for words. Body donated to science dissected in front of paying audience at Portland hotel.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...and-hotel.html
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For once I am lost for words. Body donated to science dissected in front of paying audience at Portland hotel.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...and-hotel.html
A bit late now, but he could have specified a university medical school to donate his body to. His family should get a big payout from the company that didn't use it for medical science, but used it for a profitable business. If that was me, I would come back and haunt the participants for ever.
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Originally Posted by lansbury
For once I am lost for words. Body donated to science dissected in front of paying audience at Portland hotel.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...and-hotel.html
Unbelievable, that a big-name hotel would ever agree to hosting an event of this nature.
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Originally Posted by lansbury
For once I am lost for words. Body donated to science dissected in front of paying audience at Portland hotel.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...and-hotel.html
Originally Posted by joto
A bit late now, but he could have specified a university medical school to donate his body to. His family should get a big payout from the company that didn't use it for medical science, but used it for a profitable business. If that was me, I would come back and haunt the participants for ever.
Originally Posted by robin1234
Unbelievable, that a big-name hotel would ever agree to hosting an event of this nature.
The two most disturbing parts of that article for me were that a body donated for scientific research can be purchased and displayed as an 'attraction', and that the ghouls attending the autopsy were permitted to touch the body. How horrible for his widow, that her husband was completely stripped of his dignity and humanity in this way.
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Unbelievable, that a big-name hotel would ever agree to hosting an event of this nature.
If they were led to believe that the event was a medical seminar then they would have no problems hosting it. If the 'Death science' crowd can pull a fast one on the company that the body was donated to then why not the hotel as well?
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Originally Posted by zzrmark
If they were led to believe that the event was a medical seminar then they would have no problems hosting it. If the 'Death science' crowd can pull a fast one on the company that the body was donated to then why not the hotel as well?
The Multnomah County’s chief medicolegal death investigator called, the first hotel venue and got it cancelled. She called the second hotel but they proceeded anyway.

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Originally Posted by joto
A bit late now, but he could have specified a university medical school to donate his body to. His family should get a big payout from the company that didn't use it for medical science, but used it for a profitable business. If that was me, I would come back and haunt the participants for ever.
This isn't the first time it has happened. A guy that had a parent die and wanted to give their body to science ended up on the bomb range for the us military!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/army-...b0acb57fc92631
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This isn't the first time it has happened. A guy that had a parent die and wanted to give their body to science ended up on the bomb range for the us military!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/army-...b0acb57fc92631
That post needs a warning for potential readers of the link, it's very graphic.
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At least 8 people have died in a crowd surge at the Astroworld concert in Houston. It's like the organizers have never heard of this happening before, or how to prepare for it. Ever since having a few close calls at the first 2 Big Valley Jamboree events here the first thing security plans for is how to get paramedics and ambulances through the crowd. There may be a change in area covid numbers in a couple of weeks too, but that's just my guess.
https://www.click2houston.com/news/l...-turns-deadly/

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At least 8 people have died in a crowd surge at the Astroworld concert in Houston. It's like the organizers have never heard of this happening before, or how to prepare for it. Ever since having a few close calls at the first 2 Big Valley Jamboree events here the first thing security plans for is how to get paramedics and ambulances through the crowd. There may be a change in area covid numbers in a couple of weeks too, but that's just my guess.
https://www.click2houston.com/news/l...-turns-deadly/
It was ridiculous! And so unnecessary as well.

And yes, covid numbers will be back up. There is also a huge Motorcycle Rally going on in Galveston this weekend with 400,000+ bikers covering the island. So we are prepared for another surge!
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Originally Posted by caretaker
At least 8 people have died in a crowd surge at the Astroworld concert in Houston. It's like the organizers have never heard of this happening before, or how to prepare for it. Ever since having a few close calls at the first 2 Big Valley Jamboree events here the first thing security plans for is how to get paramedics and ambulances through the crowd. There may be a change in area covid numbers in a couple of weeks too, but that's just my guess.
https://www.click2houston.com/news/l...-turns-deadly/
I read about this last night and rechecked this morning and again just now (midday). It seems a WTF in itself that, some 18 hours after the event, in a place with reasonable emergency access reporting, that the number is still given as 'at least 8' - have Texans got a counting issue?
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Originally Posted by zzrmark
I read about this last night and rechecked this morning and again just now (midday). It seems a WTF in itself that, some 18 hours after the event, in a place with reasonable emergency access reporting, that the number is still given as 'at least 8' - have Texans got a counting issue?
I assumed they were waiting to see if any of the ones who are in hospital are going to die.
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