WTF in America
Mar 2nd 2021, 11:49 pm
#8971
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Re: WTF in America
That was my first thought (in the bigger model as previously noted), then I remembered that the record for number of people crammed in a BL Mini was stupidly high and I reckon you've got twice the volume in an Expedition - 28 in a Mini...
It's funny how people's minds work, J' mentions smugglers, implying illegals, my first thought was workers crossing the border. The number of people that pile out of the painters/drywallers/masons transit vans on the building sites is something to behold - and the vans still look crammed full of materials when they've exited.
Either way, a tragic loss of life.
It's funny how people's minds work, J' mentions smugglers, implying illegals, my first thought was workers crossing the border. The number of people that pile out of the painters/drywallers/masons transit vans on the building sites is something to behold - and the vans still look crammed full of materials when they've exited.
Either way, a tragic loss of life.
The area of the accident has a lot of human smuggling to it was my first thought, they could also be migrant farm workers as there are also a lot of farms in that area. Middle of the desert between San Diego and Arizona border.
Mar 2nd 2021, 11:56 pm
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Re: WTF in America
I'm still assuming the car was on its way to a clown convention.
Mar 3rd 2021, 12:23 am
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Re: WTF in America
As an ex-resident of Cali you probably have a better idea of the activities in the area, whereas my daily observations reinforce another aspect - and I'll leave it there before I dig this hole much deeper!!
Mar 3rd 2021, 12:56 pm
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Mar 3rd 2021, 1:12 pm
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Re: WTF in America
Ford Expedition..quite a bit larger than the Explorer. Still 25 
My Expedition carried 8 people. Apart from the driver...another 7 sat on the knees of the passengers...15. Could get say another 3 in the back and another 7 on the floor. That’s without taking the seats out.
My Expedition carried 8 people. Apart from the driver...another 7 sat on the knees of the passengers...15. Could get say another 3 in the back and another 7 on the floor. That’s without taking the seats out.
This report says 27 occupants!
Mar 5th 2021, 3:42 pm
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Re: WTF in America
They stripped all the back seats out so more like a truck with a roof.
Mar 5th 2021, 10:28 pm
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Mar 5th 2021, 11:32 pm
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Re: WTF in America
From 2019, but maybe one of many reasons private security guards shouldn't have guns even if contracted to federal government offices.
Local sheriffs deputy goes to IRS office while on duty to conduct personal business, security guard and deputy get into it a bit I guess, security guard pulls gun, another office employee calls 9-11 to report a tax payer with a gun in the office.
In the end the security guard was fired, and convicted of a misdemeanor in state criminal court, and deputy filed a civil lawsuit against the security guards employer.
Apparently the federal law pertaining to this: “Federal law prohibits the possession of firearms or other dangerous weapons in Federal facilities and Federal court facilities by all persons not specifically authorized by Title 18, United States Code, Section 930. Violators will be subject to fine and/or imprisonment for periods up to five (5) years.”
https://www.police1.com/officer-safe...DRUBDtXCAq35Q/
Local sheriffs deputy goes to IRS office while on duty to conduct personal business, security guard and deputy get into it a bit I guess, security guard pulls gun, another office employee calls 9-11 to report a tax payer with a gun in the office.
In the end the security guard was fired, and convicted of a misdemeanor in state criminal court, and deputy filed a civil lawsuit against the security guards employer.
Apparently the federal law pertaining to this: “Federal law prohibits the possession of firearms or other dangerous weapons in Federal facilities and Federal court facilities by all persons not specifically authorized by Title 18, United States Code, Section 930. Violators will be subject to fine and/or imprisonment for periods up to five (5) years.”
https://www.police1.com/officer-safe...DRUBDtXCAq35Q/
Mar 6th 2021, 12:06 am
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Re: WTF in America
From 2019, but maybe one of many reasons private security guards shouldn't have guns even if contracted to federal government offices.
Local sheriffs deputy goes to IRS office while on duty to conduct personal business, security guard and deputy get into it a bit I guess, security guard pulls gun, another office employee calls 9-11 to report a tax payer with a gun in the office.
In the end the security guard was fired, and convicted of a misdemeanor in state criminal court, and deputy filed a civil lawsuit against the security guards employer.
Apparently the federal law pertaining to this: “Federal law prohibits the possession of firearms or other dangerous weapons in Federal facilities and Federal court facilities by all persons not specifically authorized by Title 18, United States Code, Section 930. Violators will be subject to fine and/or imprisonment for periods up to five (5) years.”
https://www.police1.com/officer-safe...DRUBDtXCAq35Q/
https://youtu.be/Xi7cjvB32Yw
Local sheriffs deputy goes to IRS office while on duty to conduct personal business, security guard and deputy get into it a bit I guess, security guard pulls gun, another office employee calls 9-11 to report a tax payer with a gun in the office.
In the end the security guard was fired, and convicted of a misdemeanor in state criminal court, and deputy filed a civil lawsuit against the security guards employer.
Apparently the federal law pertaining to this: “Federal law prohibits the possession of firearms or other dangerous weapons in Federal facilities and Federal court facilities by all persons not specifically authorized by Title 18, United States Code, Section 930. Violators will be subject to fine and/or imprisonment for periods up to five (5) years.”
https://www.police1.com/officer-safe...DRUBDtXCAq35Q/
https://youtu.be/Xi7cjvB32Yw
Mar 6th 2021, 4:16 am
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Re: WTF in America
From 2019, but maybe one of many reasons private security guards shouldn't have guns even if contracted to federal government offices.
Local sheriffs deputy goes to IRS office while on duty to conduct personal business, security guard and deputy get into it a bit I guess, security guard pulls gun, another office employee calls 9-11 to report a tax payer with a gun in the office.
In the end the security guard was fired, and convicted of a misdemeanor in state criminal court, and deputy filed a civil lawsuit against the security guards employer.
Apparently the federal law pertaining to this: “Federal law prohibits the possession of firearms or other dangerous weapons in Federal facilities and Federal court facilities by all persons not specifically authorized by Title 18, United States Code, Section 930. Violators will be subject to fine and/or imprisonment for periods up to five (5) years.”
https://www.police1.com/officer-safe...DRUBDtXCAq35Q/
https://youtu.be/Xi7cjvB32Yw
Local sheriffs deputy goes to IRS office while on duty to conduct personal business, security guard and deputy get into it a bit I guess, security guard pulls gun, another office employee calls 9-11 to report a tax payer with a gun in the office.
In the end the security guard was fired, and convicted of a misdemeanor in state criminal court, and deputy filed a civil lawsuit against the security guards employer.
Apparently the federal law pertaining to this: “Federal law prohibits the possession of firearms or other dangerous weapons in Federal facilities and Federal court facilities by all persons not specifically authorized by Title 18, United States Code, Section 930. Violators will be subject to fine and/or imprisonment for periods up to five (5) years.”
https://www.police1.com/officer-safe...DRUBDtXCAq35Q/
https://youtu.be/Xi7cjvB32Yw
Mar 6th 2021, 2:28 pm
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Re: WTF in America
The security guard was fired because he drew his gun without a good reason. The deputy should should have gone to do his personal business when off duty, but that's a minor thing. In the video the security guard (presumably) tells police that the deputy asked if there was a "drop box" for firearms, so argueably he was trying to be compliant. The fault lies in ambiguity in the law and no drop box to secure weapons. I'm not going to say the security guard doesn't have the right to defend himself in court even though I say he's in the wrong, or that the deputy's civil suit is frivolous, because he may have suffered real trauma.
Mar 16th 2021, 11:31 pm
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Re: WTF in America
"Indianapolis deadly shootings 'started after stimulus cheque row'"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56424266
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56424266
Mar 17th 2021, 10:28 am
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Re: WTF in America
"Indianapolis deadly shootings 'started after stimulus cheque row'"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56424266
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56424266
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56424616
Mar 17th 2021, 1:40 pm
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Re: WTF in America
The guy seems to have a violent streak. “Pizza ‘n’ guns.” Maybe antifa tendencies?