scrubbedexpat091

When I took security guard training they provided stats armed vs unarmed security, and yeah, the armed security guards were more likely to be shot and killed compared to unarmed, basically just having a gun escalates any encounter with someone else who happens to have a gun and the numbers presented on armed security being shot by their own gun after a struggle, I was like nope, not worth the extra $1 per hour to be armed security, I will take unarmed thank you very much.

Kind of scary too thinking that there was security guards walking around with guns making $10 per hour with minimal training. (that was the wage back in 2007). Now with min wage being higher in California, I'd imagine armed guards are making at least $15 or $16 per hour, but I doubt the training is any better, most of the armed guards were just police department rejects, they all had a screw loose if you ask me.

scrubbedexpat099

Sounds lie a lot of people has access to gun ranges at school.

They have the 4H here which seems to a Scouts equivalent. More farming and ranching focussed,

Giantaxe

According to this currently 200 independent and 60 state schools. I know my school dropped it (and the Boy Scouts) a while back, maybe related to kiddie-fiddling in both organizations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Cadet_Force

scrubbedexpat099

I did not realise Boy Scouts were associated with Schools.

scrubbedexpat091

None of my schools offered any direct access to gun ranges. But maybe the students in the JROTC programs or whatever they were called did.

Steerpike

And they walk around outside, stepping in shit and mud ... and their buts are dirty ...

Steerpike

Sadly, after 60+ years of life on this planet, I'm thinking the same!

Steerpike

I have yet to touch a real gun; I don't want to be near one. But ... as indicated by my last post ... I'm starting to think it might be an idea to own one (having seen all those armed Trump-supporting morons parading around with guns). If I do, I will take lessons, and lock it up.

caretaker

Stats generally reveal that you are more likely to have guns stolen from you and used in a crime than you are to use them to defend yourself. At least that was the last statistic I read for Canada. When I sold my handguns I had already stopped recreational pistol shooting, so it was an easy call. If I wasn't a hunter I probably wouldn't have a gun.

Giantaxe

I think it was extremely rare.

SultanOfSwing

It isn't that tough for me really. I don't want one so I don't have one. I don't see that changing any time soon.

spouse of scouse

I don't care how many bitey, stingy, crawly and killy things there are in Australia, this born in the USA thing takes the biscuit (and anything else it wants)
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-54937355

Leslie

Boiler's insinuation was that if only firearms training was available, then this type of thing wouldn't have happened, and shouldn't it just be taught in schools? Which is ridiculous on its face. Gun ownership is a choice and, if anybody chooses to own a gun, then they certainly have access to gun safety and education. Target shooting teams are popular in schools but, just like music and athletics, if you want to become proficient it may be on your parents to make sure you have the right equipment and proper instruction.

https://myfwc.com/hunting/safety-edu...ooting-ranges/

zzrmark

I know I don't need to remind you that the problem isn't the handler's proficiency, it's their limited mental reasoning capacity that is often the issue.

Lion in Winter

Florida should really just be returned to nature.

As the commentator says, those things are basically dinosaurs walking around.