Originally Posted by Leslie

You can take it as my personal opinion and a point of debate. A financially responsible father, IMO, is not the same as a father who lives in the home. (Mr. Lanza does not fulfill the "strong masculine hand" that Frye's theory describes).

Not that it is necessarily a bad thing. I'm not the one condemning single motherhood here. If that arrangement worked for them, then it's really none of anybody's business.

It was Frye that listed Lanza in his examples. Incidentally, if Mr. Lanza was indeed a strong male figure in Adam's life, that would also factually dispel Frye's argument.

Originally Posted by Boiler

Must admit I thought this thread needed your presence to be complete.

Originally Posted by Nutmegger

But staying in the home isn't always the best course when parents are warring -- and there was another son to consider. There's a New Yorker article that details how, despite being divorced, the parents worked together to try to find the best course of action for their son. Having been a workaholic when he did live there, perhaps his absence wasn't felt as greatly as it might have been in some families. But, to return to how this discussion got started, I do feel that the Lanza case isn't appropriate to bolster Frye's point of view.

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing

As lansbury (I never know if your name starts with a lower case 'l' or a capital 'I')

Originally Posted by Leslie

Now, the thread has morphed into blaming women for the serial and mass murders that are overwhelmingly committed by men.

Originally Posted by Leslie

This thread was stupid from post #1. The only time I've ever heard any (American or otherwise) man refer to their wife as "the boss" is when they're trying to weasel their way out of making an uncomfortable decision, e.g, "I'll have to check with the boss." Whatever.

Incidentally, I've never heard the term "SWMBO" used by anybody but Brits.

Now, the thread has morphed into blaming women for the serial and mass murders that are overwhelmingly committed by men.

Originally Posted by Boiler

Mr F has used it but I think he is a fan of the Rumpole books.

Originally Posted by Octang Frye

Seriously, disprove the fact the most serial killers/mass shooters come from fatherless homes.

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter

What a half-witted comment.

My son, now 18, has grown up in a fatherless home. He fairly recently acquired a stepfather.

He hasn't done any of the things you mention above. He has a university place to study engineering and last night received a "scholar athlete" award from his school.

Originally Posted by Leslie

This thread was stupid from post #1. The only time I've ever heard any (American or otherwise) man refer to their wife as "the boss" is when they're trying to weasel their way out of making an uncomfortable decision, e.g, "I'll have to check with the boss." Whatever.

Incidentally, I've never heard the term "SWMBO" used by anybody but Brits.

Now, the thread has morphed into blaming women for the serial and mass murders that are overwhelmingly committed by men.

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing

As lansbury (I never know if your name starts with a lower case 'l' or a capital 'I') pointed out, SWMBO is pretty close.

I occasionally, jokingly and with much love, refer to mine as my accountant, but a) I'm shite with money so I need to be watched and b) I was raised in a very matriarchal family, so I'm not either unfamiliar with, nor bothered by the idea of a woman in charge and if my wife is either figuratively or literally 'the boss', I'm all good

Originally Posted by Lagoon Nebula

You are the half-witted one if you believe that one instance disproves a general trend.

Originally Posted by Lagoon Nebula

Straw man argument, but single motherhood is the contributing factor to their traumatizing childhoods,

Originally Posted by Nutmegger

The trend is about as “general” as your observation that in the US men refer to their wives as “the boss.” They don’t, so this whole thread is moot.