Why do many American men refer to their wife's as their "boss"?
Mar 22nd 2018, 7:44 pm
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Re: Why do many American men refer to their wife's as their "boss"?
Sure, but I wouldn't want any innocent passers by to see that nonsense unchallenged. It's not fair on them.
My son, a 220lb wrestler, would probably just throw him to the mat and sit on his head
Mar 22nd 2018, 7:46 pm
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Re: Why do many American men refer to their wife's as their "boss"?
Mine would steal all his food and clog his toilet.
Mar 22nd 2018, 7:53 pm
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Mar 22nd 2018, 8:03 pm
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Re: Why do many American men refer to their wife's as their "boss"?
Mar 24th 2018, 3:34 pm
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Re: Why do many American men refer to their wife's as their "boss"?
Third wave feminism and social justice warriors have really been detrimental to males, especially boys and young men. Toxic masculinity? White male privilege? Pfft.
It begat Adam Lanza. And Ed Gein. Ed Kemper. Ted Bundy.
Boys need strong, masculine role models; fathers, uncles, grandfathers etc.
Single mothers using the state as a surrogate father/provider is devastating to the development of healthy young men.
Virtually all serial killers and mass shooters come from fatherless homes.
Without a firm masculine hand, boys will either become reclusive and immerse themselves in video games and porn, or they will seek out proxies like gangs for masculine guidance.
It begat Adam Lanza. And Ed Gein. Ed Kemper. Ted Bundy.
Boys need strong, masculine role models; fathers, uncles, grandfathers etc.
Single mothers using the state as a surrogate father/provider is devastating to the development of healthy young men.
Virtually all serial killers and mass shooters come from fatherless homes.
Without a firm masculine hand, boys will either become reclusive and immerse themselves in video games and porn, or they will seek out proxies like gangs for masculine guidance.
Lanza himself was not raised by a feminist --- Nancy Lanza was conservative and an avid gun collector/shooter. Lanza had no father in the home, not due to feminism or social warriorism, but because his father bailed on the family. Apparently the responsibility of raising a troubled son was just too much for Mr. Lanza. Nancy Lanza, though she may have made some mistakes, never abandoned her son BTW.
Ed Gein has absolutely nothing to do with (any wave) feminism because he did his killing before the women's movement ever happened. Gein did grow up with a father in the home. His mother was neither a single mother nor a feminist. She was eventually widowed but Ed Gein was a grown man when his father died at the age of 66.
Dennis Rader (BTK) was not from a single-mother/feminist home. He had a father. His father was a nice big strong masculine Marine.
Maybe more serial killers do come from fatherless homes, I won't fact check you on that but I do know Jeffrey Dahmer had a father, but I know of zero serial killers that come from feminist single-mother homes.
So, if what you say is true, that boys need a firm masculine hand, in order to not grow up to be grisly killers, why don't you blame the men that shirked their responsibilities by running off? Rather than the women who stayed and did all of the heavy lifting?
Mar 24th 2018, 4:01 pm
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Re: Why do many American men refer to their wife's as their "boss"?
I don't understand how women attempting to gain equal footing in the world would cause your friend to kill herself. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Mar 24th 2018, 4:09 pm
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Re: Why do many American men refer to their wife's as their "boss"?
Lanza himself was not raised by a feminist --- Nancy Lanza was conservative and an avid gun collector/shooter. Lanza had no father in the home, not due to feminism or social warriorism, but because his father bailed on the family. Apparently the responsibility of raising a troubled son was just too much for Mr. Lanza. Nancy Lanza, though she may have made some mistakes, never abandoned her son BTW.
Mar 24th 2018, 4:42 pm
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Re: Why do many American men refer to their wife's as their "boss"?
In a cursory search (I'm not going to waste any more time on this nonsense) I found every configuration of early life history for serial killers. Fatherless from birth due to abandonment, child of divorce, raised by both parents, orphaned by both parents, grew up in foster care, etc. One indicator that did seem to keep appearing was that many of these killers were abused by one or both of their parents, more often by their fathers.
John Wayne Gacy - father in the home. Good strong masculine WWI veteran who was physically abusive toward his wife and children.
Patrick Kearney - grew up in a seemingly stable family with a mother and a father. Killed somewhere between 20-40 people.
Westley Allan Dodd - grew up in a nuclear family. Vacillated between saying he was abused by his father and denying any parental abuse.
William Bonin - abused by his father. Molested by his grandfather.
John Wayne Gacy - father in the home. Good strong masculine WWI veteran who was physically abusive toward his wife and children.
Patrick Kearney - grew up in a seemingly stable family with a mother and a father. Killed somewhere between 20-40 people.
Westley Allan Dodd - grew up in a nuclear family. Vacillated between saying he was abused by his father and denying any parental abuse.
William Bonin - abused by his father. Molested by his grandfather.
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Mar 24th 2018, 4:54 pm
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Re: Why do many American men refer to their wife's as their "boss"?
I don't think "bailed" is fair to Peter Lanza. The marriage broke down long before the massacre, but it is not known why. Yes, Adam could have been a contributing factor. However, Nancy and Adam were fully supported financially by Peter, who lived nearby, and he was in Adam's life until Adam decided that he no longer wished to have contact with him, although his father continued to try to reach him. This was definitely not a case of a child abandoned by the father.
Not that it is necessarily a bad thing. I'm not the one condemning single motherhood here. If that arrangement worked for them, then it's really none of anybody's business.
It was Frye that listed Lanza in his examples. Incidentally, if Mr. Lanza was indeed a strong male figure in Adam's life, that would also factually dispel Frye's argument.
Mar 24th 2018, 5:00 pm
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Re: Why do many American men refer to their wife's as their "boss"?
You can take it as my personal opinion and a point of debate. A financially responsible father, IMO, is not the same as a father who lives in the home. (Mr. Lanza does not fulfill the "strong masculine hand" that Frye's theory describes).
Not that it is necessarily a bad thing. I'm not the one condemning single motherhood here. If that arrangement worked for them, then it's really none of anybody's business.
It was Frye that listed Lanza in his examples. Incidentally, if Mr. Lanza was indeed a strong male figure in Adam's life, that would also factually dispel Frye's argument.
Not that it is necessarily a bad thing. I'm not the one condemning single motherhood here. If that arrangement worked for them, then it's really none of anybody's business.
It was Frye that listed Lanza in his examples. Incidentally, if Mr. Lanza was indeed a strong male figure in Adam's life, that would also factually dispel Frye's argument.
