When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
Yes, let's break it (and your other posts on the subject) down.
The team of 30 detectives have been seconded from other branches. That's because there wasn't already a ready-made team of cruise ship/coronavirus investigators sitting around waiting for a job. Can't think why. I suppose they could have rustled up a few parking meter inspectors instead.
Australian Federal and State government departments, in addition to Carnival Australia, are the ones being investigated. Some cover-up.
The matter is under criminal investigation because there are clear indicators than the country's national biosecurity laws and NSW's state laws have been broken - in order to determine if laws that attract criminal charges if broken have indeed been broken, a criminal investigation is necessary. You know, evidence?
Speaking of evidence, people who were passengers on the ship might have some. That might be why they're being asked to fill in a form with some questions. How you got from that to they're being investigated as terrorists is and will remain a mystery.
NSW Police's criminal investigation will cover the actions of the port authority, ambulance, police, the NSW Health department and Carnival Australia. Tell your chatty cruise friends they're being paranoid, they're not on the list.
The incident was a huge stuff up, and people in Australia would quite like to know how it happened so it doesn't happen again. 2,700 passengers were permitted to disembark, despite several of them having symptoms of the virus, with test results still pending. 10% of known cases of coronavirus in Australia originated from these passengers. 21 of them have died.
If you think all of that is a laughing matter then God help you, because I certainly can't.
The team of 30 detectives have been seconded from other branches. That's because there wasn't already a ready-made team of cruise ship/coronavirus investigators sitting around waiting for a job. Can't think why. I suppose they could have rustled up a few parking meter inspectors instead.
Australian Federal and State government departments, in addition to Carnival Australia, are the ones being investigated. Some cover-up.
The matter is under criminal investigation because there are clear indicators than the country's national biosecurity laws and NSW's state laws have been broken - in order to determine if laws that attract criminal charges if broken have indeed been broken, a criminal investigation is necessary. You know, evidence?
Speaking of evidence, people who were passengers on the ship might have some. That might be why they're being asked to fill in a form with some questions. How you got from that to they're being investigated as terrorists is and will remain a mystery.
NSW Police's criminal investigation will cover the actions of the port authority, ambulance, police, the NSW Health department and Carnival Australia. Tell your chatty cruise friends they're being paranoid, they're not on the list.
The incident was a huge stuff up, and people in Australia would quite like to know how it happened so it doesn't happen again. 2,700 passengers were permitted to disembark, despite several of them having symptoms of the virus, with test results still pending. 10% of known cases of coronavirus in Australia originated from these passengers. 21 of them have died.
If you think all of that is a laughing matter then God help you, because I certainly can't.
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
Indeed it is. From a cursory pick through, apparently Aussie citizens with feet on the shag pile carpets of their Aussie lounges, who have been cooped up in their homes for well over a month, and as far as I'm aware none of whom live anywhere near Sydney's Darling Harbour are far more knowledgeable of the facts than someone on the other side of the world who has the very same access to newspaper and video reports.
1)I have no carpets.
2) There is not, and never has been, any terror investigation
3) Some Aussie citizens have been working our normal shifts, in the office, dealing with reports directly sent from NSW police to Qld police.
If our local imbecile also has access to those reports, maybe he could say so?
Last edited by Pollyana; May 10th 2020 at 6:44 am.
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
Not necessarily correct.
1)I have no carpets.
2) There is not, and never has been, any terror investigation
3) Some Aussie citizens have been working our normal shifts, in the office, dealing with reports directly sent from NSW police to Qld police.
If our local imbecile also has access to those reports, maybe he could say so?
1)I have no carpets.
2) There is not, and never has been, any terror investigation
3) Some Aussie citizens have been working our normal shifts, in the office, dealing with reports directly sent from NSW police to Qld police.
If our local imbecile also has access to those reports, maybe he could say so?
I was just trying to make sense of the mindless low grade bun-fight that appears to have been smoldering here, without the ball ache of having to read it all. As said above, I don't believe there has been a terror investigation. Everyone can relax now.
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
I'm not saying I'm an oracle on the Ruby Princess incident but I have been following the investigation and the inquiry on SBS and the ABC. My post stated the facts as they are currently known, andy's posts talked about terrorism investigations and the cruise's passengers being under suspicion, neither of which are facts.
Missus to Missus.
Honestly, don't go there. Walk away. It just means some will escalate everything into something different simply for the say so and without any thought to the actual distress & loss that has been caused .
I'd say those of us in the Antipodes could talk about the ins and the outs sensibly on a dedicated thread but likely certain types looking to just agitate will follow. It really isn't worth it.
Honestly, don't go there. Walk away. It just means some will escalate everything into something different simply for the say so and without any thought to the actual distress & loss that has been caused .
I'd say those of us in the Antipodes could talk about the ins and the outs sensibly on a dedicated thread but likely certain types looking to just agitate will follow. It really isn't worth it.
May I suggest a nice glass of sherry and simply ignoring the stirrers, idiots, and those with axes to grind. Life's too short, and there are better things to spend time on.
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
Quality suggestion . I'll drink to that .
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
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My definition of 'elderly' changes every decade.
When I was 40, 60 was elderly.
When I was 50, 70 was elderly.
Now that I'm 60 - I'm running out of viable 20 year stretches!
Reminds me of my mum, when a local community centre for seniors called her and invited her on a bus outing. Mum, who was 83 at the time, said 'I'm not ready to hang out with old buggers'
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
When I'm 60 I'll have 10 years to go until retirement. If I'm lucky. If I don't have a full blown existential crisis by the age of 55 I'll die of shock, and then I'll never get to retire.
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
60 allows you to get into Costco early as a Geriatric.
AARP is 55.
AARP is 55.
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
AARP is 50, not 55, but they started mailing me at bout 45!
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
Gets worse.
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Re: When do we expect Trump to lift the travel ban against UK?
The whole wage slave thing is a crock isn't it If I'm reincarnated I want to come back as a cockroach. Free housing, free food, and people avoid them.