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Old Jun 13th 2022, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by sid nv
Can we please return to the original posit - it's really quite simple.
Expat for less than 12 months = FAIL.
Expat for 12 months or greater = PASS.
And if one has expatted to more than one foreign location for greater than the deemed 12 months, then that counts as a PASS for each location. So one can accumulate several expat passes, I suppose they could be termed 'E' levels. And it would be nice to receive a printed certificate of each 'E' level pass in order to have proof of one's expatability.
Thanks for your comment. I wanted this to be a simple thread about things for expats and potential expats to consider and I should have known it would become a broader discussion. But anyway.stating it simply If an expat survives in a new place of abode for 12 months they will most likely thrive long term. If they have been an expat in multiple locations they are on top of their game as world travelers and experiences of life all over the globe. I say Well done to them.
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I am not sure I would say that a person who moves to another country for a job opportunity or a family relationship (i.e. marriage or relationship) is exactly the samething as being an expatriate. I wonder what others think about this? I would like to think moving to another country as an expat is more like being an adventurer if one has no connections to the country they are relocating too. I am not sure moving for employment or a relationship is exactly the same thing,
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Originally Posted by Jack_Russells4ever
I am not sure I would say that a person who moves to another country for a job opportunity or a family relationship (i.e. marriage or relationship) is exactly the samething as being an expatriate. I wonder what others think about this? I would like to think moving to another country as an expat is more like being an adventurer if one has no connections to the country they are relocating too. I am not sure moving for employment or a relationship is exactly the same thing,
I always thought of an expat as someone who moves for a job temporarily, and not looking to integrate into, or become a citizen of, the foreign location.

As opposed to a migrant / immigrant whose intent is a more permanent relocation.

Having a connection to a new country would not preclude you being an expat - nor would having no connection mean you are not a migrant / immigrant. I moved to Australia with no job, and no connections (other than a few friends made through BE) - but definitely not an expat but an immigrant (and now Oz citizen as well )
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From the Oxford dictionary

noun
/ˌeksˈpātrēət/
  1. a person who lives outside their native country.
    "American expatriates in London"
adjective
/ˌeksˈpātrēət/
  1. denoting or relating to a person living outside their native country.
    "expatriate writers and artists"
verb
/eksˈpātrēˌāt/
  1. settle oneself abroad.
    "candidates should be willing to expatriate"
Or the simplest one " A bloody foreigner"
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Originally Posted by old.sparkles
I moved to Australia with no job, and no connections (other than a few friends made through BE) - but definitely not an expat but an immigrant (and now Oz citizen as well )
An immigrant will always be an expat of the country left behind. The term originates from the Latin "to leave one's country."
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Originally Posted by old.sparkles
I always thought of an expat as someone who moves for a job temporarily, and not looking to integrate into, or become a citizen of, the foreign location.

As opposed to a migrant / immigrant whose intent is a more permanent relocation.

Having a connection to a new country would not preclude you being an expat - nor would having no connection mean you are not a migrant / immigrant. I moved to Australia with no job, and no connections (other than a few friends made through BE) - but definitely not an expat but an immigrant (and now Oz citizen as well )

Thanks for your good comment. It is good to hear other folks point of view. I may have to reconsider my point of view.
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Unfortunately, for some, the term "immigrant" has unfortunate connotations, conversely, again just for some, the term "expat" confers a superior status.
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Originally Posted by Jack_Russells4ever
I am not sure I would say that a person who moves to another country for a job opportunity or a family relationship (i.e. marriage or relationship) is exactly the samething as being an expatriate. I wonder what others think about this? I would like to think moving to another country as an expat is more like being an adventurer if one has no connections to the country they are relocating too. I am not sure moving for employment or a relationship is exactly the same thing,
But surely, in the context of the US, it's virtually impossible to move to the US for any reason other than work or family? You can't just wake up and say, "I think I'll give the US a shot" and get on a plane ...
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After naturalizing i just refer to myself as British/American or if someone asks for more information I just say I moved here in 2016 and my wife is from this area.

Can’t think of when I’ve ever used “immigrant” or “expat” to describe myself in conversation.
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Originally Posted by tom169
After naturalizing i just refer to myself as British/American or if someone asks for more information I just say I moved here in 2016 and my wife is from this area.

Can’t think of when I’ve ever used “immigrant” or “expat” to describe myself in conversation.
Ditto, though I am still frequently asked where I am from because of my accent, and I have been in the US since 2001.
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Originally Posted by tom169
After naturalizing i just refer to myself as British/American or if someone asks for more information I just say I moved here in 2016 and my wife is from this area.

Can’t think of when I’ve ever used “immigrant” or “expat” to describe myself in conversation.
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Ditto, though I am still frequently asked where I am from because of my accent, and I have been in the US since 2001.
Me too - but weirdly, people in New York will often say to me, “do I detect a New England accent?” (Or something equally polite and diffident.) So at that point, I say, yes, I lived in Boston for many years. To me, people from Boston, Maine, Cape Cod etc. do not sound remotely English, but maybe to folks from rural New York they do? Back in the 1970s, someone in Boston asked me, “whereabouts in the Old Country are you from?” Presumably thinking I was Irish. But I’d agree, I don’t remotely identify as either an expat or an immigrant.
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Me too - but weirdly, people in New York will often say to me, “do I detect a New England accent?” (Or something equally polite and diffident.) So at that point, I say, yes, I lived in Boston for many years. To me, people from Boston, Maine, Cape Cod etc. do not sound remotely English, but maybe to folks from rural New York they do? Back in the 1970s, someone in Boston asked me, “whereabouts in the Old Country are you from?” Presumably thinking I was Irish. But I’d agree, I don’t remotely identify as either an expat or an immigrant.
I do not identify with being an expat, an immigrant or indeed an American. I am British.
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I do not identify with being an expat, an immigrant or indeed an American. I am British.

Precisely!
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