US Diplomat's wife kills biker in UK then flees country :(
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It seems she’d only been in the U.K. a short while, so may have been confused about driving on the left or the right. Just a few seconds of disorientation, and you can have a head-on collision. So that raises a question; on US bases in the U.K., do they drive on the left or the right? Hopefully, on the left. If they drive on the right, it’s going to be very confusing when they drive out onto the road.
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As it happens, the base at Croughton where this accident took place, was a sub base of Upper Heyford back in the 90's, along with RAF Bicester. Now it's the only one of the three left operational.
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It seems she’d only been in the U.K. a short while, so may have been confused about driving on the left or the right. Just a few seconds of disorientation, and you can have a head-on collision. So that raises a question; on US bases in the U.K., do they drive on the left or the right? Hopefully, on the left. If they drive on the right, it’s going to be very confusing when they drive out onto the road.
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To be living there and have family immunity, the ladies husband must be quite a senior member of that community. There is noway in a month of Sundays the US would let her be questioned about the time of day, let alone anything else.
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Croughton is used as a base for the US Intelligence community.
To be living there and have family immunity, the ladies husband must be quite a senior member of that community. There is noway in a month of Sundays the US would let her be questioned about the time of day, let alone anything else.
To be living there and have family immunity, the ladies husband must be quite a senior member of that community. There is noway in a month of Sundays the US would let her be questioned about the time of day, let alone anything else.
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I just read that President Trump met the parents at the WH, then tried to get them to meet Mrs Sacoolas. A reality TV photo op.
This is what Trump seems to think his job is ...
This is what Trump seems to think his job is ...
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...-traffic-death
You are going to be hard pushed to find a picture of her husband online, my guess is maybe his high school yearbook if he was not given a new name... even the pictures of her look like they could be from a long time ago.
You are going to be hard pushed to find a picture of her husband online, my guess is maybe his high school yearbook if he was not given a new name... even the pictures of her look like they could be from a long time ago.
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Two things there, they were badly advised to have gone to the US in the first place, and then even worse advice to have gone to the WH, they should have realised that Trump would try to use it as a publicity stunt.
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Few people get full diplomatic immunity and it would be unusual for an intelligence operative based at a RAF base to have it. As they do not appear on the Diplomatic List then that would reinforce that assumption. Technical staff have very limited immunity which usually only applies during the execution of their duties. It’s now being reported that the lady in question may have incorrectly been granted immunity before she departed the UK. If so the UK could request extradition. It’ll be up to the US authorities whether to grant it however this seems very unlikely at the moment.
I have seen it said that now she is back in the States she doesn't have immunity, but the way those comments were written conveys the understanding that is because she is no longer in the UK. The only comments implying she didn't have immunity at all, that I saw, came from the Dunn family lawyer. The information I have read has been poorly written and not clear in its meaning at all. However that premise is given some credence by the speed with which the Americans removed her from the UK, and the fact they appear to have used military transport to take her home.
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Indeed, it is very unusual for immunity to cover people working away from the Embassy. But in the case of those at this RAF base I believe there is a special agreement in place that grants it to them, and in some cases their families.
I have seen it said that now she is back in the States she doesn't have immunity, but the way those comments were written conveys the understanding that is because she is no longer in the UK. The only comments implying she didn't have immunity at all, that I saw, came from the Dunn family lawyer. The information I have read has been poorly written and not clear in its meaning at all. However that premise is given some credence by the speed with which the Americans removed her from the UK, and the fact they appear to have used military transport to take her home.
I have seen it said that now she is back in the States she doesn't have immunity, but the way those comments were written conveys the understanding that is because she is no longer in the UK. The only comments implying she didn't have immunity at all, that I saw, came from the Dunn family lawyer. The information I have read has been poorly written and not clear in its meaning at all. However that premise is given some credence by the speed with which the Americans removed her from the UK, and the fact they appear to have used military transport to take her home.
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I tried to overcome my habit of avoiding Trump videos and began watching a clip of him talking about the meeting. That didn't last long, he started talking about the 'beautiful meeting' and the 'beautiful family' and I reached my tolerance level.
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My tolerance lasts about 5 seconds into hearing his voice, something about it is like squeaky chalk on a blackboard for me so I do my best to read what he has said rather than listen.