Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Jan 21st 2022, 6:41 pm
#31
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Originally Posted by postbox134
The airline, however, can and will not fly you if you do not meet the requirements of either them (conditions of carriage) or the country you're going to (in this case, a Passenger Locator Form with vaccination or lack thereof and legal and binding agreement to quarantine).
Jan 21st 2022, 6:45 pm
#32
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
What I don’t like about the people who refuse to get vaccinated is the tax paying public then pay for weeks in the ICU to try and pull them back from the jaws of death. Saw one case where hospital bill was 1.5 million and now the person believes vaccines are a good thing. Maybe limit medical reimbursement for those who refuse to get vaccinated to the cost of vaccine.
Jan 21st 2022, 6:47 pm
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Originally Posted by ddsrph
What I don’t like about the people who refuse to get vaccinated is the tax paying public then pay for weeks in the ICU to try and pull them back from the jaws of death. Saw one case where hospital bill was 1.5 million and now the person believes vaccines are a good thing. Maybe limit medical reimbursement for those who refuse to get vaccinated to the cost of vaccine.
Plus that only applies with socialised health care, not in the US
Jan 21st 2022, 6:53 pm
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Originally Posted by SimonLes
That's legitimate but only if you apply that same logic to fat people, people who drink, people who smoke, people who don't exercise.
Plus that only applies with socialised health care, not in the US
Plus that only applies with socialised health care, not in the US
Jan 24th 2022, 11:44 am
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Plus that only applies with socialised health care, not in the US
Wrong!
Unreimbursed care is my healthcare facilities Number 2 expense after salaries.
It costs the system Billions of $$$ every year.
And that's not to mention that we all pay Medicare taxes - and a huge number of people are on Medicare.
Jan 24th 2022, 2:05 pm
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Originally Posted by civilservant
Wrong!
Unreimbursed care is my healthcare facilities Number 2 expense after salaries.
It costs the system Billions of $$$ every year.
And that's not to mention that we all pay Medicare taxes - and a huge number of people are on Medicare.
Jan 25th 2022, 8:52 pm
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...ational-travel
Not sure France is going to be the friend of someone trying to avoid Covid rules.
Spain requires Vaccination and, despite it not being described, appears to be testing on arrival as well (wife flew to Madrid this past week).
Not sure France is going to be the friend of someone trying to avoid Covid rules.
Spain requires Vaccination and, despite it not being described, appears to be testing on arrival as well (wife flew to Madrid this past week).
Apr 10th 2022, 4:58 am
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Originally Posted by SimonLes
I'll say it again people- being vaccinated doesn't stop you getting covid,. it doesn't stop you spreading covid, it just reduces your chances of getting very ill for a virus that only really hurts old people, ill people and fatties.
Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Saying it again somehow makes it true does it?
But have you now got the integrity to admit you were wrong? To admit you overeacted and abused a stranger without justification? To admit you are a bully and to admit the pathetic bit of power you have got to control a conversation that you don't like, has gone to your head?
No worries if you don't. Just ban me again. But for the record, you were wrong and are still wrong. If you have any self respect you will apologize but I really hope you see this, delete the message and ban me, because it will show you for what you truly are and you will have to live with that.
What I do with my body impacts you or your friends or hospitals in no way. I have a nice little letter from my doctor with my positive antibody result from my recent covid infection that I hardly noticed. I'll be off to Spain and enjoying myself in great health and putting no one at risk in anyway whatsoever knowing I made an informed decision not to take a risk with a new vaccine that protect me from something I am not at risk of.
Originally Posted by CDC
A vaccine breakthrough infection happens when a fully vaccinated person gets infected with COVID-19. People with vaccine breakthrough infections may spread COVID-19 to others.
Originally Posted by NHS
There is a chance you might still get or spread COVID-19 even if you have a vaccine, so it's important to follow advice about how to avoid catching and spreading COVID-19..
Originally Posted by Dr Fauci
Vaccinated people who have an... infection are capable of transmitting.
Originally Posted by The Guardian
Research reveals fully vaccinated people are just as likely to pass virus on to others in their household.
Originally Posted by Public Health England
Fully-vaccinated people who catch Covid really may be just as infectious as the un-jabbed.
Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Saying it again somehow makes it true does it?
Apr 10th 2022, 5:02 am
#39
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl
When are they going to have flights for vaccinated people only?
Sure, as a vaccinated person I won't end up in the ICU (or so they say) if I do become a breakthrough sufferer, but flying for hours with unvaccinated people puts me off flying altogether.
Sure, as a vaccinated person I won't end up in the ICU (or so they say) if I do become a breakthrough sufferer, but flying for hours with unvaccinated people puts me off flying altogether.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsWJShYqkDI
Apr 10th 2022, 7:47 am
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Apr 10th 2022, 7:59 am
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Originally Posted by SimionLed
Hey, Christmasoopma. You banned me for disagreeing with your narrative. Essentially for being right and standing up to your tyranny in using your "authority" as a moderator to ban people who contradict your WRONG, hysterical, emotional reaction to the Covid pandemic. I'm sorry your friends died, I'm sorry you feel that means random strangers have to bow to your incorrect medical conclusions.
But have you now got the integrity to admit you were wrong? To admit you overeacted and abused a stranger without justification? To admit you are a bully and to admit the pathetic bit of power you have got to control a conversation that you don't like, has gone to your head?
No worries if you don't. Just ban me again. But for the record, you were wrong and are still wrong. If you have any self respect you will apologize but I really hope you see this, delete the message and ban me, because it will show you for what you truly are and you will have to live with that.
But have you now got the integrity to admit you were wrong? To admit you overeacted and abused a stranger without justification? To admit you are a bully and to admit the pathetic bit of power you have got to control a conversation that you don't like, has gone to your head?
No worries if you don't. Just ban me again. But for the record, you were wrong and are still wrong. If you have any self respect you will apologize but I really hope you see this, delete the message and ban me, because it will show you for what you truly are and you will have to live with that.
Just FYI, you weren't banned for having a different point of view from most of us. You were banned because you broke the site rules you agreed to when you signed up to this forum (rules 1 and 16 specifically), but you know that really. It just doesn't fit your tin foil hat narrative to admit that it was your fault that you were banned. There are several people who share the same point of view as you, they haven't been banned, because they're managed to put their point of view across eloquently and respectfully, and without opening multiple accounts. If you'd done the same you'd still be a forum member.
Oh, and I haven't banned you just FYI, but it seems you're not a fan of facts. Good luck with your trip to Spain btw, seeing as they're still only letting vaccinated in for tourism, I'd love to know how that goes.
Apr 10th 2022, 8:21 am
#42
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Originally Posted by civilservant
Apr 10th 2022, 8:48 am
#43
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Well that sucks
Apr 10th 2022, 9:06 am
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Originally Posted by civilservant
Well that sucks
I feel sure he'll be back again, maybe we'll let him stick around next time just to give you all a bit of fun.
Apr 10th 2022, 9:14 am
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Re: Unvaccinated traveling to the UK?
Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Maybe you should put a formal complaint in to the tyrannical bullying mod that banned him.
I feel sure he'll be back again, maybe we'll let him stick around next time just to give you all a bit of fun.
I feel sure he'll be back again, maybe we'll let him stick around next time just to give you all a bit of fun.
I am not a tyrannical bully
