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-   -   Thomas the Tank Engine is EVIL (apparently) (https://britishexpats.com/forum/trailer-park-96/thomas-tank-engine-evil-apparently-839342/)

SultanOfSwing Jul 24th 2014 5:30 am
Re: Thomas the Tank Engine is EVIL (apparently)
 
Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11346790)
Oh God absolutely.

If only mine had washed that man right out of her hair.
Oh great, thank you - now I have that godawful song stuck in my head :blink:

Sally Redux Jul 24th 2014 5:33 am
Re: Thomas the Tank Engine is EVIL (apparently)
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11346794)
Oh great, thank you - now I have that godawful song stuck in my head :blink:
Me too :rofl:

kimilseung Jul 24th 2014 5:37 am
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scrubbedexpat099 Jul 24th 2014 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11346789)
Yes I'm like that too. I let mine play violent videogames as kids.

I think we have a slight misunderstanding in the thread. It is not 'Watching X programme didn't hurt me'. More 'Could we make X programme more inclusive?' That can still be fun (and profitable). Lara Croft and the Prince of Persia kick ass (although they made him white in the film version).
What should he have been?

Uncle_Bob Jul 24th 2014 5:45 am
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I always thought Tizwas and Swap shop were good shows growing up as a kid. We used to watch them for the whole morning on rainy Saturdays, no morals no messages just a bit of fun. They don't seem to have anything like that these days.

SultanOfSwing Jul 24th 2014 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11346797)
Me too :rofl:
I replaced it with The Rain Song, which I had on in the car at lunch :nod:

Nutek Jul 24th 2014 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 11346803)
What should he have been?
Pink, and pixelated.

http://www.bestoldgames.net/img/ss/p...persia-ss2.gif

Welshgator Jul 24th 2014 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11346131)
We had Enid Blyton not racist.
I seem to recall in Britain in the 80's there was some push to ban Enid Blyton in public libraries due to the sexist nature of the stories. Mostly because the boys took the main lead in the stories and made all the important decisions.

kimilseung Jul 24th 2014 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by Welshgator (Post 11346929)
I seem to recall in Britain in the 80's there was some push to ban Enid Blyton in public libraries due to the sexist nature of the stories. Mostly because the boys took the main lead in the stories and made all the important decisions.
Do'nt remember public libraries, but schools dumped them.

SultanOfSwing Jul 24th 2014 7:56 am
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I don't think there is as much of a problem with outdated gender role definitions as we may be led to believe. In some cases the 1950s attitude prevails but anecdotally, I am hard pushed to think of any women or girls I know who see themselves in any way subservient to men, or that their abilities are in any way inferior.

I am including my own daughter, who loves princess, dresses and being girly enough to throw my parenting ability into question by certain trendy city types (need I mention that was deliberately rude :p). She is certainly no pushover when it comes to dealing with blokes. Or anyone, for that matter.

Welshgator Jul 24th 2014 8:04 am
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Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 11346935)
Do'nt remember public libraries, but schools dumped them.
Yeah, I believe the schools dumped them too.

I remember our English class starting a class library one year. At that time I thoroughly enjoyed reading short ghost stories. My teacher reluctantly allowed them in the library but I always figured it would be better for kids to be reading them than not reading anything at all.

Leslie Jul 24th 2014 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11346962)
I don't think there is as much of a problem with outdated gender role definitions as we may be led to believe. In some cases the 1950s attitude prevails but anecdotally, I am hard pushed to think of any women or girls I know who see themselves in any way subservient to men, or that their abilities are in any way inferior.

I am including my own daughter, who loves princess, dresses and being girly enough to throw my parenting ability into question by certain trendy city types (need I mention that was deliberately rude :p). She is certainly no pushover when it comes to dealing with blokes. Or anyone, for that matter.
It's more nuanced than that. It's not just about girls having self confidence, though that is an element. It's also about the attitudes of the men that she will encounter and who may be in positions of power over her throughout her life.

Sally Redux Jul 24th 2014 8:13 am
Re: Thomas the Tank Engine is EVIL (apparently)
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11346806)
I replaced it with The Rain Song, which I had on in the car at lunch :nod:
:thumbup:
Originally Posted by Welshgator (Post 11346929)
I seem to recall in Britain in the 80's there was some push to ban Enid Blyton in public libraries due to the sexist nature of the stories. Mostly because the boys took the main lead in the stories and made all the important decisions.
Gollywogs wasn't it?
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11346962)
I don't think there is as much of a problem with outdated gender role definitions as we may be led to believe. In some cases the 1950s attitude prevails but anecdotally, I am hard pushed to think of any women or girls I know who see themselves in any way subservient to men, or that their abilities are in any way inferior.

I am including my own daughter, who loves princess, dresses and being girly enough to throw my parenting ability into question by certain trendy city types (need I mention that was deliberately rude :p). She is certainly no pushover when it comes to dealing with blokes. Or anyone, for that matter.
My daughter has spent an inordinate amount of time and effort on her looks which could have been better-directed perhaps, then again she's got a smokin' hot Persian boyfriend out of it so I can't be too harsh on her :rofl:

SultanOfSwing Jul 24th 2014 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 11346974)
It's more nuanced than that. It's not just about girls having self confidence, though that is an element. It's also about the attitudes of the men that she will encounter and who may be in positions of power over her throughout her life.
We are teaching her not to take shit from anyone, male or female, so hopefully she will be OK on that front. She is remarkably strong minded, quite honestly, I think it will be her causing other people trouble :unsure:

That, at least in 14 years time anyway, won't be my problem, so rather them than me ...

Sally Redux Jul 24th 2014 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11347028)
We are teaching her not to take shit from anyone, male or female, so hopefully she will be OK on that front. She is remarkably strong minded, quite honestly, I think it will be her causing other people trouble :unsure:

That, at least in 14 years time anyway, won't be my problem, so rather them than me ...
It's certainly not easy to know how to advise girls.

A lot depends on their peer group.


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