Sex education in the US
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So, a couple of weeks ago, eldest (who is at university near me) said that her room-mate was worried she was pregnant. Eldest quickly got her a pregnancy test and apparently on the way to getting it told her friend "don't worry because if you are pregnant then my mum will help sort you out" Oh dear god, I missed a bullet there.
Anyway, the dr apparently talked her into using birth control. I kid you not. An honors student from a Texas catholic family.
There's been an outbreak of syphillis amongst the students in Lubbock. Apart from taking drugs I don't think the poor kids there have anything else to do so let's hope the drs are instructing them in the use of condoms.
Texas!!
Anyway, the dr apparently talked her into using birth control. I kid you not. An honors student from a Texas catholic family.
There's been an outbreak of syphillis amongst the students in Lubbock. Apart from taking drugs I don't think the poor kids there have anything else to do so let's hope the drs are instructing them in the use of condoms.
Texas!!
#49
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You have an amazing confidence in the knowledge and abilities of the public. the absurd number of myths (you can't get pregnant your first time, you can't get pregnant standing up, sex with a virgin cures AIDS, condoms cause STDs, etc) shows that your confidence is misplaced.
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You have an amazing confidence in the knowledge and abilities of the public. the absurd number of myths (you can't get pregnant your first time, you can't get pregnant standing up, sex with a virgin cures AIDS, condoms cause STDs, etc) shows that your confidence is misplaced.
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But there are cheaper and more effective ways. For example, marriage ...
Using the word 'immunity' in and AIDS joke? That's so dark, Chicago PD just showed up and shot it in the back.
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Contraception: Success and Failure Rates of Contraceptives | Center for Young Women's Health
My vote is for implantables - can't forget to take it, or throw it up by accident, or accidentally counter it with antibiotics. And then condoms for anti-disease.
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Teaching sex in schools raises too much controversy. Some parents would approve but there are other parents who would think it wrong. Therefore since it's impossible to please everyone the subject is better off being handled or not handled by the parents. Same goes for religion but religion is not taught in American public schools anyway.
In short sex and religion belong at home while academic subjects belong in school
In short sex and religion belong at home while academic subjects belong in school
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Just on the off-chance you're not spoofing us...
- it's not the job of schools to avoid controversy and please everyone. Lots of people think any level of math above 6th grade arithmetic is pointless (with an insidious number of them being the parents of girls). Many people proudly declare how they haven't picked up a book since they left school 20 years ago. A sizeable number of Americans view the slightest hint of intellectualism or signs of being 'bookish' or academic as something to disparage. I propose not asking the masses what they want from a school system, because we'll otherwise be back to the days of just reading, 'riting, and 'rithmatic, and finishing school before your teens.
- religion is taught in public schools. My kids' middle schools in OH and even in the heartland of Mormon AZ have included a unit on comparative world religions. My son recounts how it was total news to a couple of kids in his class that there even WERE any religions other than Christianity and 'Muslim' (equated with 'Terrorist') let alone knowing anything about their beliefs, customs, etc.
- out of all the possible subjects to drop and leave to the whims of parental instruction, let's NOT make it sex ed. After all, nobody else is going to be especially damaged by your kids not knowing the Periodic Table or the finer details of the Monroe Doctrine; does it really matter to anyone other than them if they've read To Kill A Mockingbird? But if their ignorance leads to unplanned pregnancy and the spreading of disease - we're all on the hook for THAT problem.
- it's not the job of schools to avoid controversy and please everyone. Lots of people think any level of math above 6th grade arithmetic is pointless (with an insidious number of them being the parents of girls). Many people proudly declare how they haven't picked up a book since they left school 20 years ago. A sizeable number of Americans view the slightest hint of intellectualism or signs of being 'bookish' or academic as something to disparage. I propose not asking the masses what they want from a school system, because we'll otherwise be back to the days of just reading, 'riting, and 'rithmatic, and finishing school before your teens.
- religion is taught in public schools. My kids' middle schools in OH and even in the heartland of Mormon AZ have included a unit on comparative world religions. My son recounts how it was total news to a couple of kids in his class that there even WERE any religions other than Christianity and 'Muslim' (equated with 'Terrorist') let alone knowing anything about their beliefs, customs, etc.
- out of all the possible subjects to drop and leave to the whims of parental instruction, let's NOT make it sex ed. After all, nobody else is going to be especially damaged by your kids not knowing the Periodic Table or the finer details of the Monroe Doctrine; does it really matter to anyone other than them if they've read To Kill A Mockingbird? But if their ignorance leads to unplanned pregnancy and the spreading of disease - we're all on the hook for THAT problem.
As for sexual education I'll say again that it's more the responsibility of parents to educate their kids on this subject. It's bad enough already that too many parents think that schools should be responsible for teaching kids good manners and behavior,
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Why do you think it's the parent's responsibility? you've not addressed any of kokokan's points apart from nit-picking on the definition of 'teaching religion'
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Not really - they're only 98% effective in an ideal world, which isn't the one teens live in. Typical usage is 82% effective:
Contraception: Success and Failure Rates of Contraceptives | Center for Young Women's Health
My vote is for implantables - can't forget to take it, or throw it up by accident, or accidentally counter it with antibiotics. And then condoms for anti-disease.
Contraception: Success and Failure Rates of Contraceptives | Center for Young Women's Health
My vote is for implantables - can't forget to take it, or throw it up by accident, or accidentally counter it with antibiotics. And then condoms for anti-disease.
Luckily our daughter was planned, so at least for us, condoms are 100%. I get that combined methods are the best for those not in a position to be able to deal with having children, of course.
Personally I can't wait to get fixed. Since we don't have to worry about disease, I can finally get rid of my rubbers
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Another issue that I have talked about with my son recently...
HPV vaccinations. Eldest daughter received the vaccinations in France at age 13, France has since decided to offer the vaccine to boys - why they didn't do this right from the start is beyond me. Som has agreed that he should get the vaccine too.
In light of recent research (Gender differences in risk factors and natural history of oral human papillomavirus (HPV) infection) showing that throat cancers are on the increase amongst men due to oral sex.
enjoy your toast and coffee!
HPV vaccinations. Eldest daughter received the vaccinations in France at age 13, France has since decided to offer the vaccine to boys - why they didn't do this right from the start is beyond me. Som has agreed that he should get the vaccine too.
In light of recent research (Gender differences in risk factors and natural history of oral human papillomavirus (HPV) infection) showing that throat cancers are on the increase amongst men due to oral sex.
enjoy your toast and coffee!