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Jan 21st 2014, 11:25 am

#556

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by dunroving

Did you read the whole thing? It's 100's of pages! I started reading it, and then lost the will to live at about page 50, and read the summary report instead (can't recall now, but I think it was about 70 pp.)

Even within the full report, if you seek out sections on particular aspects, the detailed rationale of how things will work doesn't really stand up to scrutiny.

To an extent, some of this is understandable - there are many unknowns about how things would work following independence. However, the breezy "It'll all be fine" attitude and complete unwillingness to accept that anything might be less than perfect is unsettling.

I did indeed read the whole thing, over the span of about a month (the time on the toilet became useful

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Jan 21st 2014, 1:33 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

Sounds like it may have had double usage.

Jan 21st 2014, 1:46 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by Boiler

Sounds like it may have had double usage.

You're showing your age.

Jan 21st 2014, 3:30 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by Pulaski

I'm not sure which post of mine you think was "tongue in cheek", but just because I tend to be sarcastic doesn't mean I'm not serious. I often use facetious examples, and if you're referring to my "independence for Yorkshire" post, then I did so to make the point that independence for Scotland is every bit as absurd. That you can't see that isn't surprising, but it is still disturbing that you, and about one quarter of the Scottish electorate, have been so badly misled.

It was #476 where you changed my comment from Scotland to UK and you gave me a FIFY.

Jan 21st 2014, 3:39 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by neilcumming

It was #476 where you changed my comment from Scotland to UK and you gave me a FIFY.

No, that really wasn't tongue in cheek either. The "regions" have much more in common with each other than they do with countries in Europe. Devolving power from Brussels would be much more beneficial for the whole of the UK than worrying about independence for Scotland.

Jan 21st 2014, 3:43 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing

Ah yes, Scotland. That well known powerhouse of international football.

(Before you make a crack at my province of origin, we've at least been to the later stages of the tournament. Twice ...)

Yep we are home before the postcards and we have tried "Oor Jackies" approach and still not worked!

Jan 21st 2014, 4:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski

Scotland has more in common with Norway than any part of east Anglia or south of England.

Jan 21st 2014, 5:27 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

Here's something to chew on.
English professor urges scots to vote independence,from todays Daily Record.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/po...plains-3042935
Anyone care to disagree?

Jan 21st 2014, 5:35 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

I love this thread so much.

It has lots of this...

Jan 21st 2014, 5:49 pm

#565

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by Nutek

I love this thread so much.

It has lots of this...

http://yaypics.smugmug.com/photos/i-...-SBxzjZf-S.gif

560+ posts in, and Godwin's Law is still being proved.

Jan 21st 2014, 5:53 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by neilcumming

Here's something to chew on.
English professor urges scots to vote independence,from todays Daily Record.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/po...plains-3042935
Anyone care to disagree?

Sorry, I can't open that link. My work internet has classed it as "incitement/racial hatred".

Jan 21st 2014, 5:56 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by neilcumming

Here's something to chew on.
English professor urges scots to vote independence,from todays Daily Record.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/po...plains-3042935
Anyone care to disagree?

Well the article has SFA to do with Scotland's independence and every thing to do with party politics. I could make a strong argument based on my politics to shove Scotland off into independence because it would severely limit Labour's chances of forming a government in Westminster, but that is a narrow political viewpoint, and, as I posted earlier, it is my firm opinion that the UK is better as an entity, and everyone (in the UK) will lose/ be worse off if Scotland leaves the UK.

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Originally Posted by Mr Weeze

Sorry, I can't open that link. My work internet has classed it as "incitement/racial hatred".

.... It's an English "expat" in Glasgow who is afraid that Labour (in Westminster) will "lurch to the right" seeking the votes of "middle England". He seems to want a Scottish government based on 70's era socialism.

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Jan 21st 2014, 6:01 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by neilcumming

Here's something to chew on.
English professor urges scots to vote independence,from todays Daily Record.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/po...plains-3042935
Anyone care to disagree?

He's lived in Glasgow for 34 years so not sure the fact that he's English has any bearing on anything. Aside from that his arguments are purely political as Pulaski has already noted.

Jan 21st 2014, 6:30 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by Bink

He's lived in Glasgow for 34 years so not sure the fact that he's English has any bearing on anything. Aside from that his arguments are purely political as Pulaski has already noted.

Does that make him a Scot?

Jan 21st 2014, 6:33 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

As others have mentioned the guy is English with a particular political point of view.

He is in favour of the EU but wants Scotland to leave it, which seemed odd.

Perhaps he is confused, he said he had been a member of the Labour Party since the 1940's.