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Old Sep 19th 2014, 1:44 pm
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Freeeeeedommmmm!

Er, maybe not.
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 1:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
The No vote clearly lacks a mandate, the consequences will be interesting.
What do you mean by 'mandate' in this context? The rules were pretty clear - a majority vote would prevail, which it has.
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 1:57 pm
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The result was marginal, i meant mandate in the same sense as is used by Political Parties at General Elections.
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 2:25 pm
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The result was marginal, i meant mandate in the same sense as is used by Political Parties at General Elections.
A ten point gap and several hundred thousand votes is marginal?
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Weeze View Post
Hey, it's tough being the BE returning officer. Some would say exhausting.
Maybe Hotscot will make you one of his large G&T's.
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 2:35 pm
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A ten point gap and several hundred thousand votes is marginal?
45 to 55 sounds pretty close to me.
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 2:51 pm
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Disappointed by the result but at least the scottish gov will gain more powers.It was fun while it lasted lets have another one soon
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 3:15 pm
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Disappointed by the result but at least the scottish gov will gain more powers.It was fun while it lasted lets have another one soon
Hard luck pal, at least one outcome is that the Westminster elite are feeling less secure in continuing with business as usual.

I stayed up all night listening to it on the radio, didn't want to miss it. Interesting interviews on radio and TV today, some people on both sides can't let go of griping about the campaign but most seem to be looking forward to combining efforts in the best interests of Scotland.

Better luck next time.
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by neilcumming View Post
Disappointed by the result but at least the scottish gov will gain more powers.It was fun while it lasted lets have another one soon
Since the No side won by a very significant margin, there would be no sense in holding another referendum in the next several decades. Look at the Quebec experience ... The momentum just went away, dissipated, was irrelevant after the most recent referendum. Issues move on, times change.
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 3:27 pm
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Hard luck pal, at least one outcome is that the Westminster elite are feeling less secure in continuing with business as usual.

I stayed up all night listening to it on the radio, didn't want to miss it. Interesting interviews on radio and TV today, some people on both sides can't let go of griping about the campaign but most seem to be looking forward to combining efforts in the best interests of Scotland.

Better luck next time.
Thanks dunroving.It certainly got people talking about UK politics and exposed a few lies.
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Thanks dunroving.It certainly got people talking about UK politics and exposed a few lies.
On both sides...
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 3:45 pm
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A ten point gap and several hundred thousand votes is marginal?
Most recent US presidents have got less than 55% of the popular vote. Of course, the electoral college system can convert small majorities into a lop-sided result. I'd describe this result as a clear but not overwhelming affirmation of the union.

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Old Sep 19th 2014, 4:09 pm
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On both sides...
To adapt a quote from Mark Twain, "There are three types of lies: Lies, damn lies and politics".
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 4:23 pm
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Ach well the good news is Hampden has been selected as one of the host cities for the 2020 Euro Championship.Just need Scotland to qualify eh
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Old Sep 19th 2014, 4:28 pm
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An independent Scotland would have qualified.

With the imperialist yoke still there, much less likely.
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