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Old Sep 18th 2014, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by Hotscot View Post
I'm a Scot and a Brit.
I don't want these eejits to take that away from me.
Ah, but you're a "No" (aren't you?).
What would the "Yes" voters think?
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 5:06 am
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Originally Posted by Michael View Post
I don't see that is a problem. There is North, South, and Central America but usually only the US is referred to as America. Also aren't people from Northern Ireland referred to as British even though they don't live in Great Britain?
United Kingdom of Southern Britain and Northern Ireland.

2 hours till kick off -it feels quite exciting.
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 5:16 am
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Originally Posted by kimilseung View Post
United Kingdom of Southern Britain and Northern Ireland.

2 hours till kick off -it feels quite exciting.
Or Britain (South) and Ireland (North). BINS for short....
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 5:18 am
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Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad View Post
Or Britain (South) and Ireland (North). BINS for short....
F&*( me.,....I got through 5 decades and god knows how many years of ejukashun and nobody realizedI was dyslexic...........
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 5:25 am
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Before today I had no idea about Scottish empire ambitions, that there were a number of Scottish colonies in the Americas. The Darien Scheme (in Panama) being the crown jewel, that fell flat on its face, and partly helped towards acceptance of union a few years later. Fascinating all this history. Anyone else know about this, was I alone in my ignorance?
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 5:32 am
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Sneak peek at the ballot paper
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by kimilseung View Post
Before today I had no idea about Scottish empire ambitions, that there were a number of Scottish colonies in the Americas. The Darien Scheme (in Panama) being the crown jewel, that fell flat on its face, and partly helped towards acceptance of union a few years later. Fascinating all this history. Anyone else know about this, was I alone in my ignorance?
The Darien disaster bankrupted Scotland and made the Union a financial necessity not merely something to accept. There was a BBC documentary on it a few years back.
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Originally Posted by kimilseung View Post
Before today I had no idea about Scottish empire ambitions, that there were a number of Scottish colonies in the Americas. The Darien Scheme (in Panama) being the crown jewel, that fell flat on its face, and partly helped towards acceptance of union a few years later. Fascinating all this history. Anyone else know about this, was I alone in my ignorance?
No.
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Originally Posted by Garbatellamike View Post
The Darien disaster bankrupted Scotland and made the Union a financial necessity not merely something to accept. There was a BBC documentary on it a few years back.

To me that's the root of all this nonsense...
And yet many are unaware.
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Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad View Post
Ah, but you're a "No" (aren't you?).
What would the "Yes" voters think?
The YES voters think?
Didn't know they could do that...
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Unsolicited prediction...55/45 NO.
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Hotscot View Post
The YES voters think?
Didn't know they could do that...
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by kimilseung View Post
Before today I had no idea about Scottish empire ambitions, that there were a number of Scottish colonies in the Americas. The Darien Scheme (in Panama) being the crown jewel, that fell flat on its face, and partly helped towards acceptance of union a few years later. Fascinating all this history. Anyone else know about this, was I alone in my ignorance?
I only learned about it a couple of years back when the referendum thing kicked off again. I don't think we ever covered it in history at school ... we were far more focused on useful stuff like whether Tolund Man favored weetabix over shredded wheat for his last meal.....
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Old Sep 18th 2014, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Garbatellamike View Post
The Darien disaster bankrupted Scotland and made the Union a financial necessity not merely something to accept. There was a BBC documentary on it a few years back.
I understand that one interpretation of the failure of the Darien Scheme was that the dastardly English kiboshed it by refusing to allow their colonies to trade with Darien, and did so with a view to forcing Scotland into a union.

A different interpretation is that the Scots were daft to even think of establishing a colony there because
a) Darien is extremely inhospitable; even today the Pan-American Highway does not cross the Darien Gap.
b) It was right slap-bang in the middle of Spanish America, and so Spanish hostility did far more to destroy the colony than English. (Note that the English colonies were almost all on the fringes of the areas the Spanish were active in.)
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Twitter is full of voter intimidation stories. Both sides are at it, but it seems slightly worse from the yes campaign. Graffiti outside polling stations warning of consequences for voting no, marches and parades outside polling stations, campaigning inside the polling stations themselves. Sigh.

As I said, whatever the result I'm not sure this is going to be pretty.
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