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Sep 8th 2014, 2:09 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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Originally Posted by holly_1948

Let's see, who else in Western Europe is not in the EU?
Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Faeroes and a few odd bits and pieces such as Vatican and Kaliningrad.

That does not seem like too bad a club to join. Actually Scotland has quite a bit in common in some ways.

Although Alex Salmond likes to keep saying Scotland is like Norway, they don't have much in common at all. Taxation in Norway is astronomical, too. He keeps forgetting to mention that.

Even less so with the rest of that list - Switzerland? Vatican?

Sep 8th 2014, 2:29 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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I'm confused now. Does an Independent Scotland want to be part of the EU, yes or no?

Sep 8th 2014, 2:39 pm

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I'm confused now. Does an Independent Scotland want to be part of the EU, yes or no?

'Eck says Yes. And he's the boss.

Sep 8th 2014, 3:22 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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I'm confused now. Does an Independent Scotland want to be part of the EU, yes or no?

As far as I'm aware, yes that is the intention. Although why you'd go to all this trouble to gain independence and then hurl yourself into the clutches of the EU is beyond me.

Sep 8th 2014, 3:26 pm

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I thought that was the case, but given the "it wouldn't be bad to be in a club with the Faeroes and Kaliningrad" line, I wasn't so sure...maybe I missed the sarcasm smilie....

Sep 8th 2014, 5:27 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

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So is that it then? Marvellous.

To be honest, the level of airport taxes does tick me off, but they don't impact my travel patterns, they just give me something to complain about.

I guess if the tax is cut, they will need to find somewhere else to raise it to make up for the shortfall without cutting services. Was there provision for that in his projected budget, or was the back of his fag packet full?

They make up tax cut from increased tourism and more jobs,its not marevellous its plain simple.What I hated about living in the UK was the taxes,you are taxed to the hilt to keep the rich happy and pay for things like Trident.Every budget was so predictable ,a penny on pint,20p on cigs ,20p on a litre of petrol,nothing new or radical just the same old same.An Indy Scotland has a chance of doing things much more different than the old tired ways.

Sep 8th 2014, 5:30 pm

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They make up tax cut from increased tourism and more jobs,its not marevellous its plain simple.What I hated about living in the UK was the taxes,you are taxed to the hilt to keep the rich happy and pay for things like Trident. Every budget was so predictable ,a penny on pint,20p on cigs ,20p on a litre of petrol,nothing new or radical just the same old same.An Indy Scotland has a chance of doing things much more different than the old tired ways.

Sep 8th 2014, 5:32 pm

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Re: the Scottish independence issue

All the English people are going to love traveling in and out using the tax free airports that are being funded by Scottish tourism.

Sep 8th 2014, 5:37 pm

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Heres something funny,The New Avengers are sent to Scotland to save the union!
New Avengers - the new idea to save the Union

Sep 8th 2014, 5:39 pm

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All the English people are going to love traveling in and out using the tax free airports that are being funded by Scottish tourism.

Yeah and dont forget to buy your duty free scotch and ciggies

Sep 8th 2014, 5:56 pm

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A lot of wishful thinking here. I see no reason why independence would lead to "increased tourism and more jobs" absent other fundamental economic changes. Given that Scotland spends more per-capita on social programs than does the UK as a whole, it would be hard pressed to keep taxes at current levels, let alone decrease them.

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Sep 8th 2014, 5:56 pm

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They make up tax cut from increased tourism and more jobs,its not marevellous its plain simple.

What jobs? Where?

Mining? Steel? Shipbuilding? Electronics? Farming?

Any graduates worth their salt will be getting the hell out of Dodge to seek greener pastures.

And what about the thousands who'll be laid off when they get rid of Trident?
And the knock on effect on the local communities.

This stupid "plan" would devastate Scotland.

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Sep 8th 2014, 6:13 pm

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..... And what about the thousands who'll be laid off when they get rid of Trident?
And the knock on effect on the local communities.

This stupid "plan" would devastate Scotland.

And the banks and investment companies too. Sure, it will take time, but the management and high-paid jobs will be heading south of the border fairly quickly.

Sep 8th 2014, 6:26 pm

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I have absolutely no doubt about that.
Scotland will become a "nice to visit but..."

Sep 8th 2014, 6:27 pm

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More jobs in tourism and the "thousands of jobs " Scotland would lose if Trident sails south just is not true.The majority of the workforce at Faslane come from outwith the local community or are naval personnel.