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Old Jul 12th 2016, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by jmood
Thanks Mr Ken.

I'm in NY. I suspect no one is going to bat an eyelid. I live in a building with a live-in Superintendent (Caretaker in UK terms). He has been in and out of my apartment over the last few weeks and knows about my project. When I showed him the door I was stripping and mentioned my concern about lead paint he just said "oh, that's only for children". Not to say he's right, but meaning he's not concerned and won't raise it with the building's owner etc. I don't live in the prissy part of town.

I bought a 3M mask (Lead Paint Removal Respirator) but the part through which air comes in seems like there's no filter or anything special there. It's just a slit in the plastic. There are 2 filters on each outside side of the mask, but those areas are where your expired air would exit the mask. I don't see how this protects the person. I was intending to call 3M and ask about this but haven't gotten around to it yet.
Generally home owners are exempt from permits and inspections for work on their own home. It is possible to get permits and inspections, but not mandatory.

It sounds like your dust mask is faulty. I have a gas-mask style mask which draws air in through the filter and expels air on the other side.

A standalone air filtration system, like a hepa filter, or a home-made box to hold a 20"×20" AC filter against a box fan would be a good idea too, to catch dust before it gets spread around too much.

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I talked to 3M about the lead paint removal respirator. Apparently the center valve is a one-way membrane and is for exhaling. The 2 cartridges on the sides are what the inhaled air comes through. Now it sounds right.

It's quite stuffy and am sure will be very hot and bothersome to use though. And also, putting my face shield over it. Wow. What have I gotten myself into!
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..... It's quite stuffy and am sure will be very hot and bothersome to use though. .....
Yes. I tried using in once for handling insulation in the attic in summer. I soon gave up and waited for cooler weather.
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Generally home owners are exempt from permits and inspections for work on their own home. It is possible to get permits and inspections, but not mandatory.

It sounds like your dust mask is faulty. I have a gas-mask style mask which draws air in through the filter and expels air on the other side.

A standalone air filtration system, like a hepa filter, or a home-made box to hold a 20"×20" AC filter against a box fan would be a good idea too, to catch dust before it gets spread around too much.
Most of the legislation is aimed at under 6 year olds , mainly because older children don't chew the wood work so much. There are some useful EPA guidleine and it appears NY is one of the cities that just advises home owners and regulate contractors.

You could get one of those window fans and just blow the dust outside.

https://www.epa.gov/lead/renovation-...it-yourselfers
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You could get one of those window fans and just blow the dust outside.

https://www.epa.gov/lead/renovation-...it-yourselfers
Is the fan mentioned in the link? I didn't see it.

Do you mean any fan and just aim it towards an open window?
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Is the fan mentioned in the link? I didn't see it.

Do you mean any fan and just aim it towards an open window?
Technically you probably shouldn't be blowing lead dust outside, but it may make your life easier.
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Thanks. Good idea.

There is a toxicology maxim that dilution is the solution to pollution (and hence toxicity).

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Is the fan mentioned in the link? I didn't see it.

Do you mean any fan and just aim it towards an open window?
Something like

Holmes Twin Window Fan, White - Walmart.com
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Technically you probably shouldn't be blowing lead dust outside, but it may make your life easier.
I personally wouldn't want to do that. If I were sanding lead paint I would rig up something like this, even if it just meant duck-taping the filter to the fan, then dispose of the filter in a plastic bag.
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You can also instead of burning use an infra red paint remover that melts it.
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You can also instead of burning use an infra red paint remover that melts it.
Infrared is another means of heat generation, so the end results is the same as a conventional heat gun.
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Nope
Have you ever considered going Mastermind? Your specialist subject could be "Giving answers which are correct but neither relevant nor especially useful".
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Have you ever considered going Mastermind? Your specialist subject could be "Giving answers which are correct but neither relevant nor especially useful".
I thought it was only me that did that. Maybe it is catching.
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I thought it was only me that did that. Maybe it is catching.
Compliments are Mr P's speciality.
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