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Very disturbing....

Of course one musn't mention race or religion...

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Or politics.

Mind you makes Ferguson look pretty tame.

Ra ra ra?

If it was a one off issue then it would be very sad.

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Links, anyone ... No clue what you are talking about ...

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Here's a link

Google

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You are grossly under estimating your responsibilities as OP.

Anyway, The Millers lost to Swansea in the League Cup. The fact that they are playing Brentford in New York on Saturday needs some explaining.

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Blatant failures of political and police leadership contributed to the sexual exploitation of 1,400 children in Rotherham over a 16-year period, according to an uncompromising report published in the aftermath of allegations of gang rape and trafficking in the South Yorkshire town.

Written by Prof Alexis Jay, a former chief inspector of social work, the investigation concluded that the council knew as far back as 2005 of sexual exploitation being committed on a wide scale by mostly Asian men, yet failed to act.

This is the fourth report clearly identifying the problem of child sexual exploitation (CSE) in Rotherham. The first, commissioned by the Home Office back in 2002, contained "severe criticisms" of the police and local council for their indifference to what was happening under their noses. But instead of tackling the issue, senior police and council officers claimed the data in the report had been "fabricated or exaggerated", and subjected the report's author to "personal hostility," leading to "suspicions of collusion and cover up", said Jay.

From the Guardian.

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I know, I know.
Trying do this uncommon activity known as "work" at the same time...

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BBC radio 5 had an interview with a female relative of one of the men convicted. She raised some interesting issues around collusion in a male-dominated culture. The apparent cover-up obviously needs a full inquiry. I would think there was more to it than 'PC-ness', however this stick will obviously be used.

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I have to say, given Aisha, that this kind of pisses me off.

Mr Hussain said: "There's nowhere in ..... the religion of Islam that says child exploitation is allowed - it's completely forbidden"

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Religion in general pisses me offore and more each day.

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I feel a Fatwa coming....

Marches, protest the lot.

Waiting for George Galloway to make some comments.

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POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!

:thumbdown:

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Was it political correctness that hid and failed to investigate decades of abuse at numerous care homes across the country? Is that what protected Saville and his cohort? I am not sure it is that simple.

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The scale of this suggests a bigger cover-up than simple delicacy over race to me.

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It is a cultural problem related to gangs, rather than a religious one imo. I did part of the research for a doc on grooming that investigated Rotherham and other such areas in the UK.

It is disgraceful and sad nonetheless. Plenty of notable people from the Muslim and Asian community have been speaking out against it, but that doesn't get as much airtime unfortunately.

Hoffage

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Just read this today... :ohmy:

Report reveals 1,400 cases of sexual exploitation - CNN.com

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I am sure it is just the tip of the iceberg.

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Just heard on the radio that the man who uncovered all the abuse is saying that it's widespread to many other English towns.

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I haven't heard of any of them speaking out, where did you hear ?

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Rotherham is Sheffield , same thing.

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BBC radio and TV for a start, I have already heard quite a few people.

I also think it is gang-related. One possible religious component, which applies not just to Islam, is that when you restrict normal sexual relations between young people it is going to manifest in other ways. Just a personal theory though.

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I don't like to see Rotherham in the press for such bad things, especially when it clearly happens elsewhere too. As previously stated, this is just the tip of the iceburg

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You'd rather Rotherham didn't get any bad press for this?:huh::blink:

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Problem is that there have been many reports of it happening there since 2002, and several reports criticising the police for their attitiudes towards the abuse and the failure to act on complaints. People are saying that many of the complaints were just not logged, to help keep crime statistics better than they actually weere. No doubt it does happen in other places, historically Rochdale for one, but Rotherham, and surrounding areas like Doncaster and Sheffield have been in the public eye over the last few years. The Police commissioner should go, not just resign from the Labour party, which he did before he was pushed.

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There is the issue of police ignoring rape allegations from women perceived as being of a lower socioeconomic status. Not confined to Rotherham.

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Quote yesterday from a former LABOUR Member of Parliament for the Rotherham Parliamentary constituency at Westminster........Denis Macshane, a leading Labour party light on the local scene up in South Yorkshire:

"I should have done more but my own liberal leftie background made me reluctant to speak out against what was going on in Rothermam, and that made me reluctant to speak out over abuse allegations against Muslim men. I should have burrowed into this. Perhaps, yes, as a true Guardianista reader and a liberal leftie I dind't want to raise that too hard. I blame a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural unity boat for the failure by numerous agencies and various individuals to expose child abuse and exploitation!"

Pretty much sums it up don't you think? Luvvy leftie Labour party liberalism at its finest......what could be worse in their book than being accused of racism?

Of course, if all of those men had been white native born sons of the soil of Yorkshire the whole outcome would have been entirely different!

How shameful is that in a country which has always been proud of its fair and equable system of justice administered without fear or favour! But of course, along came political correctness.....:eek:

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Even here in the U.S. the level of political correctness prevents detailed and honest discussions on many matters that affect citizens and legal residents.

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I don't quite think I can bring myself to believe that anyone would actually say all those words outside of a comedy sketch.

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If not before 2002! I remember "police no go areas", whether true or not, but definitely taxi no go areas not too far from where I was living in the North of England, where one was actively discouraged from reporting any crime perpetrated by any person of color, due to the chances of it actually reaching court. This has been going on for so long in "deprived areas". I am delighted it's reaching national news, and I class myself as a liberal.

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All while Glasgow reached City of Culture status:)

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By obeying Sharia law?

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I consider myself a liberal, but also anti-religion. The way the UK bent over backwards to accommodate the Muslim community ("multiculturalism") was a huge mistake, and a demonstration of how liberal ideas can go too far.

It will be interesting to see where this goes.

(I'm equally opposed to the Catholic church priesthood and their child molesting ways ... there should be no special passes for anyone or group because of their religion...).

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Promoting 'faith schools' (any faith) was a huge mistake and I also strongly object to the constant free passes afforded on religious grounds.

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Government support (financial) should be a complete no-no, but I would like to go further than that and simply ban them outright, saying that children are entitled to a religion-free introduction to the world (confine the brainwashing to the home). But that will never fly.

How is France doing, by the way, on the subject of banning religious clothing in schools, etc (headscarfs and such)? I applaud them for their efforts ...

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I agree totally. Keep education separate, whether state-funded or not.

I don't agree with the religious dress codes either, but I also abhor the NF so a bit torn. I'm sure there is a lot of female suffering going on under our very noses.

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I don't expect Rotherham to go unscathed from all this, but I expect it to be highlighted that it's not just Rotherham that this kind of thing happens in. The report itself even names other towns and cities in it