Tootsie Frickensprinkles

That is the key isn't it, the only two places I have really felt threatened because I was white is neighbourhoods in southern VA and east Birmingham.

I would never however consider suffering judicial prejudice in either the US or the UK.

Elvira

The very idea - here in the year 2007!

But it provides a very pertinent illustration of the kinds of mindset that still govern interactions between the races in certain parts of the South.

Lycanthrop

I'm not interested in provoking racist argument. My comments were not offensive, they are the results of personal observation and interraction over two decades in 3 regions of the US. Why defend the argument......you either see it this way or you dont. Its the same with the PC stance.

Oh, and by the way......would someone please tell Leslie to lay off the personal insults (full of shit / stupid man, etc). I have her on ignore, but unfortunately her posts still show up in others' quotes. I could care less her personal opinions, but she does take it all a tad personally.

Jerseygirl

You strike me as a very nice person. You obviously have a lot to contribute to BE...I look forward to reading more of your posts.

neil

While your original comments may not have been intended as offensive they could easily be taken that way when many white racists use the same "argument" to justify their own racism.

Lycanthrop

Ok........fair comment.

Racists, be they white, black, yellow or polka-dot have one thing in common don't they? A tunnel view wich isn't open to the possibility that they could be wrong about their opinions of a whole group of people. There just aren't exceptions to the rule..........

Personally, I've found that there are exceptions to the rule........whatever the color. Its just a shame that those scant exceptions are just that.........whatever their color.

Peace, love and pass the ammunition.

neil

The main difference is that a lot of other races have very good reasons to resent whites. While they are not helping the situation by being racist themselves it is understandable. On the whole you must be able to understand why they might want to separate themselves from a culture which treats them in such a way as can be demonstrated in this story.

Elvira

Do you really feel that, given the subject of this thread, your flippant comments are in any way appropriate?

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Ozzidoc

No, it is true. Here's one source: http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2001pres/20011119a.html
I've seen reports in respected journals like New England Journal of Medicine and "Obstetrics & Gynecology".

In theory black and white people have the same access, but not in reality. Daily living gets in the way of people's health - eg missed antenatal clinic appointments because there's no money for the bus fare or because they have no cell phone credit so couldn't arrange for friends/relatives to look after the kids.

There are issues such as education & culture. At the hospital I was based at in LA, black women on the whole did not have any intention to breastfeed, the majority of white & Latinas did. (Breastfeeding has links to increased immunity, decreased asthma & eczema, decreased diabetes......not breastfeeding increases the risk of ear infections etc the opposite of the list for breastfeeding) (BTW, I don't have a problem with women bottle-feeding, provided that they have made an informed decision.)

Different states have different healthcare provisions for pregnant women. eg in California, it's free. But this doesn't mean that women will actually access it. Every single day I was at that hospital in LA, I saw women who had received NO prenatal care....didnt know they were pregnant, or had carried a pregnancy successfully before so knew what to expect and didn't want the hassle of visiting the hospital etc.

Leslie

Will somebody please quote this post so that lycanthrop can read it?

Black people who dislike white people are not the majority as "he who can't be spoken to directly" said in his post. That was a stupid comment made out of ignorance. Even it was the truth - it is completely irrelevent to the original post and topic of this thread.

I'm quite sure that he has personally experienced black people oppressing him, threatening his life for sitting under their trees, incarcerating his children and in general making him live as a second class citizen in a country where ALL PEOPLE ARE (allegedly) EQUAL. I'm also equally convinced that all of the black owned businesses in his area are keeping him unemployed or paying him slave wages in which to provide for his family. I realize that the black controlled government of the US is forcing "he who cannot be spoken to directly" to live in hopelessness as the country turns further and further away from the idealistic hopes that someday his white children will play beside black children without the threat of death. I realize as "he who cannot etc etc" drives through his city that the black police force is profiling him daily and pulling him over when his only crime was being a poor white man driving through a wealthy black neighborhood.

As Elvira mentioned earlier - institutionalized racism is a completely different animal than different cultures and ethnicities "disliking" each other.

I will stop insulting "he who cannot be spoken to directly" when and if he ever decides to engage his brain before posting complete and utter bollocks - comments that are not only irrelevant to the conversation but are glib, childish and deeply insulting to those of us that care about other people.

Peace, love and kiss my ass.

penguinsix

Anyone who has ever played an online video game with a headset that allows them to talk to other players knows full well that racism is still pretty strong amongst some teenagers. It can get pretty bizarre sometimes that whacked out stuff they say.

Ozzidoc

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Sally

I meant to substantiate your assertion.

Sally

My husband's medical research is to do with Vitamin D and immunity and his results are interesting, not wishing to annoy bottle-feeding mums but the evidence is there for far better immune system for both the child and, interestingly, subsequent children of that child with breast feeding. It consistently seems that lower income groups are put off breastfeeding, sadly.

Secondly he has been conducting research into the role of Vitamin D and the immune system, showing strong links with higher incidence of TB in dark-skinned ethnic groups due to lower Vit D absorption from the same amount of sunlight.

Sally

Lycanthrop, did you feel Black people in the UK disliked Whites or is it a specifically US phenomenon?