scrubbedexpat091

1969 United Airlines training video. "The Man Up Front"

scrubbedexpat091

737 MAX is expected to be recertified on Wed by the FAA.

Leasing companies have warned EU tariffs will hamperreintegration of the MAX in Europe, Ryan Air say's they expect Boeing to absorb the cost of tariffs.

Southwest Airlines doesn't expect to return any MAX to service until 2nd qtr 2021.

American Airlines is planning a return to service starting end of December.

The 450 aircraft built during the grounding, authority to issue airworthiness certificates and export certificates will not be delegated and the FAA will do in person individual inspections, that process could take a year or more to complete.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN27W184

Giantaxe

I feel about the 737 MAX as I do about covid vaccines. I'll wait until other competent western countries certify them in addition to the US.

civilservant

The 'MAX name will likely vanish a this point. I suspect that companies when showing the aircraft being used for the flight on their bookings will begin to refer to them as -700. -800 etc again and drop the MAX part.

scrubbedexpat091

Other regulators are expected to recertify fairly quickly once the FAA does, so shouldn't be too long, the FAA has been working with other regulators in Europe, Brazil, Canada and a few others on the recertification so doesn't appear the FAA is going alone on the recertification, but they have to be the first before other countries can recertify.

markonline1

Speaking to friends in the industry back home. She works for BA. Has been on furlough since March. Expects to be on furlough until next March at least. He works at Heathrow. I saw they’ve just voted for strike action. He had until midnight to sign a new contract that cut his pay and changed his conditions. Failure to sign by deadline would mean instant dismissal. Despite being told by the unions this was in fact illegal, and would result in pretty much a guaranteed win for unfair dismissal, he was also told his case would be unlikely to be heard before 2024 with any payout probably coming in 2025! Not the same company I worked for!

scrubbedexpat091

MAX officially recertified in the US.

EU is expected to follow in December or January.

Transport Canada says they will do so soon but soon in Canada could mean days to months.

lansbury

Was it in the late 1990s, sometime after 1996, they changed the contracts then for new staff. Old staff were being paid a good bit more than new people, and the conditions were not as good either. Remember happy hour in the bar of Harry Ramsden's in T1 in the evenings and a lot of unhappy BAA staff.

scrubbedexpat091

US and Canadian airlines did the 2 tier contract thing too, anyone hired by X date was paid well with good benefits, hired after X date close to min wage, less benefits etc, sucked for younger people wanting to get into the airline industry as the pay was so low and still is for the most part.

Grocery industry has done that too, old timers like my moms husband get paid well, he makes $33 per hour but was hired in the 1990's, hired today, min wage to start and top out pay after 15 years is 21.50.

So either people were over paid in the past or we are being drastically underpaid now. My dad too, retired now, but someone hired today will make less than my dad did 20 years ago, pretty sad really.

lansbury

Norwegian files for bankruptcy protection.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...cy-protection/

markonline1

Thats it. I joined on the post 97 contract. Pre 97 we’re on a higher rate, got a premium for early starts, we’re paid a fuel allowance for overtime shifts. The money was ridiculous. The union then spent every pay negotiation trying to close the gap, which obviously, they never achieved. The company’s answer was to start offering all the old contracts early retirement. People were walking away with ridiculous packages. Even as a post 97 employee though, I still did pretty well. The new staff are paid a pittance. And yes, I remember Harry Ramsden’s in T1 very well.

scrubbedexpat091

Oops.

scrubbedexpat091

A one of the BA 744's in storage/being scrapped had a fire today.

civilservant

I'm surprised if it was being scrapped that it still has it's engines attached. They are usually the first thing to go as they are so valuable. Must be someone that wants a second hand engine for parts.

Certainly not getting anything from the cockpit for parts now though!

markonline1

Had some good news today. When the industry is getting decimated, we’ve added a new route. Alaska confirmed today the service to Alaska will start in February. Helps me sleep just a little easier.