Planespotting II
Jun 25th 2020, 2:03 pm
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Jun 25th 2020, 10:39 pm
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Re: Planespotting II
Yes, but the initial report indicates it did happen
For my 2 cents they were trying to lose height by doing an emergency descent (full speedbrake at max velocity) from about 10,000ft; but in so doing, it all became too much to realise what was going on when they crossed the threshold at Vref+ way too much.
For my 2 cents they were trying to lose height by doing an emergency descent (full speedbrake at max velocity) from about 10,000ft; but in so doing, it all became too much to realise what was going on when they crossed the threshold at Vref+ way too much.
Jun 30th 2020, 4:52 am
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Re: Planespotting II
Norwegian cancels 92 737-MAX and 5 787 orders along with service agreements.
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020...ir-boeing.html
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020...ir-boeing.html
Jun 30th 2020, 5:59 am
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Re: Planespotting II
Norwegian cancels 92 737-MAX and 5 787 orders along with service agreements.
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020...ir-boeing.html
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020...ir-boeing.html
Jun 30th 2020, 6:26 pm
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Jun 30th 2020, 8:04 pm
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Re: Planespotting II
I'd say their financial position probably played a large role in the cancellation, going forward they really don't need that many aircraft.
Jun 30th 2020, 8:21 pm
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Jun 30th 2020, 9:48 pm
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Re: Planespotting II
With Air Canad cutting even more flights and their dire expectation of at least 3 years for recovery, some of these new planes will go straight to the desert possibly.
Jul 1st 2020, 12:29 am
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Jul 1st 2020, 2:34 pm
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Re: Planespotting II
EASA has banned PIA from operating in the European Onion - they have 24 hours to end operations and get their aircraft out of the EU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G62sSwC4t_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G62sSwC4t_g
Jul 3rd 2020, 2:48 am
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Re: Planespotting II
So many old co-workers losing their jobs in the airline industry, some with 25-30 years being forced out, sad times indeed.
Looks like the end of the road for the 747 is near, well in about 2 years according to some reports, Boeing will fulfill the existing orders and shut down the production.
Looks like the end of the road for the 747 is near, well in about 2 years according to some reports, Boeing will fulfill the existing orders and shut down the production.
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Jul 13th 2020, 7:58 pm
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Re: Planespotting II
Some 737 MAX news regarding American Airlines.
Financing is difficult for airlines to obtain at the moment, especially ones on more shaky financial ground.
"American Airlines is warning Boeing that it could cancel some overdue orders for the grounded 737 MAX unless the planemaker helps line up new financing for the jets, according to people familiar with the discussions."
"The 17 planes in dispute were supposed to have been delivered to American at least a year ago. That has given the airline the option of canceling the order without penalty and recovering its down payments now, according to one of the people familiar with the matter. The deliveries have been delayed while Boeing works to fix a flight-control system suspected of playing a role in the crashes. "
Financing is difficult for airlines to obtain at the moment, especially ones on more shaky financial ground.
"American Airlines is warning Boeing that it could cancel some overdue orders for the grounded 737 MAX unless the planemaker helps line up new financing for the jets, according to people familiar with the discussions."
"The 17 planes in dispute were supposed to have been delivered to American at least a year ago. That has given the airline the option of canceling the order without penalty and recovering its down payments now, according to one of the people familiar with the matter. The deliveries have been delayed while Boeing works to fix a flight-control system suspected of playing a role in the crashes. "
Jul 13th 2020, 8:07 pm
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Re: Planespotting II
Some 737 MAX news regarding American Airlines.
Financing is difficult for airlines to obtain at the moment, especially ones on more shaky financial ground.
"American Airlines is warning Boeing that it could cancel some overdue orders for the grounded 737 MAX unless the planemaker helps line up new financing for the jets, according to people familiar with the discussions."
"The 17 planes in dispute were supposed to have been delivered to American at least a year ago. That has given the airline the option of canceling the order without penalty and recovering its down payments now, according to one of the people familiar with the matter. The deliveries have been delayed while Boeing works to fix a flight-control system suspected of playing a role in the crashes. "
Financing is difficult for airlines to obtain at the moment, especially ones on more shaky financial ground.
"American Airlines is warning Boeing that it could cancel some overdue orders for the grounded 737 MAX unless the planemaker helps line up new financing for the jets, according to people familiar with the discussions."
"The 17 planes in dispute were supposed to have been delivered to American at least a year ago. That has given the airline the option of canceling the order without penalty and recovering its down payments now, according to one of the people familiar with the matter. The deliveries have been delayed while Boeing works to fix a flight-control system suspected of playing a role in the crashes. "
Jul 13th 2020, 9:00 pm
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Re: Planespotting II
Are any of you active ADSB trackers?
https://tar1090.adsbexchange.com (click =U= for mllitary aircraft)
Been watching a lot of military traffic around Washington DC during the protests, but occasionally see some B-52s out over the western states and a few fighters flying over the UK. The USAF hasn't fully added ADS-B to their aircraft yet so you can't track everything, but you do find the occasional interesting flight.
https://tar1090.adsbexchange.com (click =U= for mllitary aircraft)
Been watching a lot of military traffic around Washington DC during the protests, but occasionally see some B-52s out over the western states and a few fighters flying over the UK. The USAF hasn't fully added ADS-B to their aircraft yet so you can't track everything, but you do find the occasional interesting flight.
for that link.We were low-level-buzzed last Sunday, OH expressed concern about the "bloody Dutch overflying again" but thanks to your link I was able to track it within a matter of seconds to a Belgian F16 (one of six F16s out and about last Sunday mid-afternoon).
