Planespotting II

Old May 13th 2021, 8:59 pm
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Originally Posted by civilservant
Glad that everyone was ok - although this seems like a somewhat predictable event if you have multiple aircraft approaching on parallel runways with one side making a turn on to short final - overshoot the turn and you end up with a collision.

They were luckily that they were on the equipment that they were, and it was fitted with CAPS.

That Metroliner is a hull loss for sure.
See that a lot at my airport. Little put puts doing pattern work on the smaller runway, commercial landing parallel on the main runway. I’m still in Heathrow mode a little when I see that to be honest, it makes me wonder. Still at least the tower is manned at its regular hours. During the pandemic height when it closed at 1600 and the airspace became a free for all, that had my heart in my mouth. I probably read through our emergency plan at least twice a week just in case LOL.
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Originally Posted by civilservant
Glad that everyone was ok - although this seems like a somewhat predictable event if you have multiple aircraft approaching on parallel runways with one side making a turn on to short final - overshoot the turn and you end up with a collision.

They were luckily that they were on the equipment that they were, and it was fitted with CAPS.

That Metroliner is a hull loss for sure.
Nothing a couple of rolls of duct tape couldn't sort out...
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Nothing a couple of rolls of duct tape couldn't sort out...
One of those situations where it might have also benefitted the pilot not knowing what had happened, the cargo aircraft anyhow that landed, listening to the communications, he genuinely doesn't seem to realize what actually had happened.



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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
One of those situations where it might have also benefitted the pilot not knowing what had happened, the cargo aircraft anyhow that landed, listening to the communications, he genuinely doesn't seem to realize what actually had happened.
Indeed, they audibly suggest a right engine failure.
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Indeed, they audibly suggest a right engine failure.
I'll wager that the chap's verbal response when first seeing the damage wasn't even remotely similar to his ice cool statement about engine failure to the tower!
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It totally amazes me there is no comment from the controller. He doesn’t see the collision, he doesn’t either see, or mention the damage to the metroliner. ATC really is on a completely different level over here compared to the UK, and not in a good way.

And in fact I’ve just watched the video again, and I think someone made the comment earlier about aircraft turning into final with another inbound on a parallel runway. That is absolutely the case and again backs up the shocking sequencing here. Centennial has a similar set up to us, main and GA runway. The runways are much closer together than what you would expect to see at a commercial hub. I’m not a controller, but I’m certain that here the SR22 would have been instructed to extend his downwind. That really was an accident waiting to happen.

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Juan Browne explains things a bit.

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FAA is spanking Envoy Air, a wholly owned subsidiary of American Airline d/b/a American Eagle.

"consistent evidence showing potential lack of airmanship," unsafe and poor piloting by multiple Envoy Air flight crews over the past two years"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/19/busin...air/index.html
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Looks like the FAA is going to downgrade Mexico air safety rating to category 2. FAA did the same in 2010 for about 4 months.

If Mexico is downgraded, Mexican carriers will be permitted to maintain existing service, but will be unable to add new service to the US, and codeshares with US carriers would be restricted.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...es-2021-05-21/

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Oops. Ground sent 2 aircraft down the same taxiway but in opposite directions and make for a bit of a pickle. Eventually a pushback was brought out and moved the Delta aircraft out of the way.

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People are getting nasty on flights, over the weekend a Southwest flight attendant lost 2 teeth due to a passenger assault. Between April 8 and May 15 Southwest had 477 passenger misconduct incidents.

In a typical year the FAA averages 100-150 formal cases of passenger misconducted being reported to them, so far this year, 2,500 have been reported, most 1,900 were passengers refusing to comply with mask mandates.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1268493
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most 1,900 were passengers refusing to comply with mask mandates.
What a surprise. One wonders though, is this people removing their mask after boarding? Or people generally refusing to wear a mask? If the latter, why are they not denied boarding?
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
People are getting nasty on flights, over the weekend a Southwest flight attendant lost 2 teeth due to a passenger assault. Between April 8 and May 15 Southwest had 477 passenger misconduct incidents.

In a typical year the FAA averages 100-150 formal cases of passenger misconducted being reported to them, so far this year, 2,500 have been reported, most 1,900 were passengers refusing to comply with mask mandates.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1268493


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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
People are getting nasty on flights, over the weekend a Southwest flight attendant lost 2 teeth due to a passenger assault.
The passenger is to blame, but it seems the airline may be at fault too for not properly training the flight attendant.

https://nypost.com/2021/05/26/southw...d-altercation/
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