Scouse Express

What a Jackass!

I'm a believer in "For Better - For Worse" etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qt_JCnRdCQ

He is just a Moron, preying on the Gullible.

Jim.

cluedweasel

That's the problem I have with the so-called evangelical christians. They don't seem to believe in anything Christian.

Sarah

Insane old people are hilarious.

Sarah

The representation of Christians on TV is much like the representation of Muslims on TV. Putting the crazy ones on is much more entertaining, and better for ratings.

S Folinsky

Robertson is not one of my favorites. However, on this one, I find myself in agreement. Listen to his whole statement -- it was not uncaring or glib.

Forty years ago, my great aunt was a widow who became quite friendly with Lou. Lou was a delightful man. Lou's wife suffered from Alzheimer's and was living in a nursing home. It was an open secret in the family that my aunt and Lou were living together -- but this was in the day when that was just not openly done. Everyone in both families were extremely pleased about the relationship even though we had to pretend that they were not sharing living quarters.

This reminds me of recent statements by Mike Huckabee and Rick Perry. Mr. Huckabee had been questioned about the Casey Anthony verdict -- although he may have disagreed with the verdict, he was sympathetic towards the jury. He noted that one of the toughest jobs he had as governor were the last minute clemency decisions regarding executions. Gov. Huckabee said he gave a lot of thought to those decisions and he lost sleep. I found that I admired his feelings.

SultanOfSwing

+ a few thousand

I hope I'm borderline certifiable when I'm old - just to really piss off my children

md95065

Wow!!

Well, I never thought that I would find myself agreeing with Pat Robertson but as far as that specific question goes I have to say that I do.

Full disclosure:

My (ex) domestic partner was diagnosed with HIV and AIDS Dementia Complex almost 6 years ago after a sudden and precipitous decline in his cognitive abilities which left him in need of 24/7 care with extremely little short term memory and generally in a state very similar to mid to late stage Alzheimers. He has been in an assisted living facility ever since and although he is on anti retroviral drugs that keep him physically (comparatively) healthy the brain damage caused by the HIV is permanent.

For all practical purposes he is, in a very real sense, no longer the person that I lived with for over 20 years - that person no longer exists. There is, however a new and different person there now who is deserving of respect and care but who no longer needs me to provide that for him. Earlier this year after being his conservator for 5 years I found a very good professional fiduciary and petitioned the court to have her appointed to replace me.

Now I get to move on with my life. That doesn't mean that I no longer care about him or no longer visit him - in fact it is much easier for me to do that and to maintain a new and different relationship with him now that I no longer have the burden of being responsible for him.

During this process I have met (both in person and in internet support groups) many other people who have a relative or partner with some form of dementia (not necessarily just Alzheimers) and while everyone handles it differently there is a general agreement that it very often feels like a long slow death drawn out over many years where the original person is long since gone. In many cases the disease doesn't just destroy one life but sometimes entire families (and this is particularly true of the forms of dementia such as FTD which can strike much earlier than Alzheimers - even in the 30's and 40's).

Anyway, while I would not presume to tell anyone else what they should or must do I would urge those of you who have not been in this situation to be careful about judging the actions of those of us who are.

joto

Piss them off now or when they are a little bit older. Then you will know you're peeing them off, rather than wait and not know you're doing it because you have brain rot.

SultanOfSwing

I do piss them off now as well. But when I'm old and nuts then they get hit with the guilt because their old da might not be around to piss them off much longer, and it's not his fault, really . . .

I like to prolong the agony, me

cindyabs

I would not go that far, perhaps a bit overly enthusiastic and arrogant in many public statements. I believe there is only one omniscient being however they are named.

Sally Redux

I agree.

Leslie

I agree with the notion that people sometimes shouldn't stay married/faithful to a partner who has sustained an injury or illness of this type. I've been very close to people who have been through this exact situation and I have complete compassion for both positions.

As far as Pat Robertson goes though ... oh hell no. I've seen the tape and the point that I think everybody is missing is what a complete hypocrite and piece of crap of a Christian minister that Pat Robertson really is.

The guy who called in was claiming to blame God and be angry with God because of the situation - sentiments and statements that basically amount to blasphemy. The man also had already been having an affair and was angry that his sick wife was interfering with his new relationship. This is adultery. Robertson didn't call the guy on any of his own selfish behaviors and went directly to the "Kick the bitch to the curb and get on with your life," mantra.

Pat Robertson is the same evil SOB who, any time there is a natural disaster, blames the homos, Muslims, and feminists, in whatever given city. It's their sins that bring the disasters and the whole city is being punished for not having cast them out.

I guess his call-in viewership are the only ones exempt from God's wrath. What a tool.

Sally Redux

Oh, the God People always bend the rules to suit themselves.

md95065

Oh, no - I am definitely not missing that

The man simply defies description and if he occasionally happens to say something that makes sense then it is no more significant that the fact that a stopped clock will still be correct for an instant twice a day.

My earlier response was really more intended to point out that the notion of "For better - For worse" doesn't necessarily work for everyone ...

dakota44

No use for any of the money grubbing televangelist ****s.