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Aug 29th 2019, 11:53 am

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Re: Off with her head

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Originally Posted by TexanScot

Because significant amounts of Brexit-related legislation cannot come into force until a Minister of the Crown lays a Standing Order before Parliament stating the date of commencement, and they cannot do that unless Parliament is sitting.

Like a statutory instrument to delay Exit Day under the Withdrawal Act? If this really about ramming through a No Deal Brexit then that’s what you think you would want to avoid.

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I'm not really sure what relevance that has to the matter, although it's noteworthy that it was the Parliamentarians who actually prevailed in the Civil War

Indeed. Parliament voted for Brexit and Parliament will get Brexit.

Aug 29th 2019, 11:54 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs

There is, in fact, an extra NINE days, normal time is around 26 days, this time it is 35 days. If they really wanted to give MPs time to debate this the conferences could have been postponed.

I make an extra eight days compared to last year but that’s splitting hairs.

Aug 29th 2019, 4:12 pm

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Re: Off with her head

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Originally Posted by durham_lad

It wasn't the Civil War, it was the Glorious Revolution or Bloodless Revolution of 1688 (well after the Civil War) that installed William and Mary on the throne and stripped the monarchy of the vast majority of its power. It was the start of the Constitutional Monarchy in Britain that means all the power resides with Parliament.

Was it not after the Civil War - following the execution of Charles I and the establishment of the Commonwealth - that the primacy of Parliament following the interregnum?

I thought the Glorious Revolution was about securing the Protestant succession to the Crown, since it led to the Bill of Rights and Act of Settlement barring any future Catholic monarch.

Not something that's generally taught in schools in Scotland so happy to be correct

Aug 29th 2019, 7:16 pm

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Indeed it did re-establish the Protestant succession but it also removed most of the powers of the monarchy. The monarchy still had immense power after Cromwell died and Parliament had restored Charles II to the throne. James II had suspended both the Scottish and English parliaments so part of the deal in putting Mary and William on the throne was to permanently curtail that power.