no green card lotto in UK..Why?
Nov 28th 2018, 2:09 am
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
From what has been written , the USA is not likely to be on the cards for you. Perhaps look to another country.
I did read that you feel moving your children more than once might not be helpful for them but quite often the children are more resilient than the adults. You might well be surprised.
I agree that often it takes leaving that which we take for granted to truly appreciate what we leave behind.
Nov 28th 2018, 3:10 am
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
I totally understand the feeling; getting worn down by the status quo. The weather really can affect you. Reading the doom and gloom and resentment and jealousy and sniping in the Daily Mail.
(I still go there after the Times put up a pay-wall many years ago.) Getting away from all that can do wonders. 'Recently had my cell phone half-inched. Took almost a month to sort out a replacement. It was actually quite nice.
Just telling you my experiences, though; a geographical relocation doesn't fix your mindset. I had depression one time and moved across the country - thinking that would solve my problem. It didn't. I was just depressed somewhere else.
Don't give up on your dreams; make it a long term plan and consider somewhere easier to make that first step. The only thing about being an ex-pat is that once you are, you can never really go "home" again. Home will be forever changed and not what you thought it was. It's a blessing and a curse.
(I still go there after the Times put up a pay-wall many years ago.) Getting away from all that can do wonders. 'Recently had my cell phone half-inched. Took almost a month to sort out a replacement. It was actually quite nice.
Just telling you my experiences, though; a geographical relocation doesn't fix your mindset. I had depression one time and moved across the country - thinking that would solve my problem. It didn't. I was just depressed somewhere else.
Don't give up on your dreams; make it a long term plan and consider somewhere easier to make that first step. The only thing about being an ex-pat is that once you are, you can never really go "home" again. Home will be forever changed and not what you thought it was. It's a blessing and a curse.
That itch is what makes some of us adventurers and explorers. We want to see what's over that hill. Take my wife... please.
No, seriously, my wife is a great explorer. Whenever we go somewhere, she has to go into every room, especially the ones that say Authorised Personnel Only.
It stresses me out. We have to hide in the trees at the Botanical Gardens when the Lothlorien Elves (security guards) are turfing people out, so we can be locked in an explore the gardens in the dark.
That itch reminds be of the George Bernard Shaw quote: The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. And Donald Trump.
No, seriously, my wife is a great explorer. Whenever we go somewhere, she has to go into every room, especially the ones that say Authorised Personnel Only.
It stresses me out. We have to hide in the trees at the Botanical Gardens when the Lothlorien Elves (security guards) are turfing people out, so we can be locked in an explore the gardens in the dark.
That itch reminds be of the George Bernard Shaw quote: The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. And Donald Trump.
You almost had me swooning there OF, almost.
Nov 28th 2018, 4:05 am
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
I wondered what m8 meant.
And news from your prospective employers?
And news from your prospective employers?
Nov 28th 2018, 6:36 am
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
That itch is what makes some of us adventurers and explorers. We want to see what's over that hill. Take my wife... please.
No, seriously, my wife is a great explorer. Whenever we go somewhere, she has to go into every room, especially the ones that say Authorised Personnel Only.
It stresses me out. We have to hide in the trees at the Botanical Gardens when the Lothlorien Elves (security guards) are turfing people out, so we can be locked in an explore the gardens in the dark.
That itch reminds be of the George Bernard Shaw quote: The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying tot adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. And Donald Trump.
No, seriously, my wife is a great explorer. Whenever we go somewhere, she has to go into every room, especially the ones that say Authorised Personnel Only.
It stresses me out. We have to hide in the trees at the Botanical Gardens when the Lothlorien Elves (security guards) are turfing people out, so we can be locked in an explore the gardens in the dark.
That itch reminds be of the George Bernard Shaw quote: The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying tot adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. And Donald Trump.
Nov 28th 2018, 6:40 am
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
Not in my case, no. I didn't emigrate because I was dis-satisfied with my country of birth. We emigrated to try something new which would enrich our life experience. To explore & experience.
From what has been written , the USA is not likely to be on the cards for you. Perhaps look to another country.
I did read that you feel moving your children more than once might not be helpful for them but quite often the children are more resilient than the adults. You might well be surprised.
I agree that often it takes leaving that which we take for granted to truly appreciate what we leave behind.
From what has been written , the USA is not likely to be on the cards for you. Perhaps look to another country.
I did read that you feel moving your children more than once might not be helpful for them but quite often the children are more resilient than the adults. You might well be surprised.
I agree that often it takes leaving that which we take for granted to truly appreciate what we leave behind.
Nov 28th 2018, 11:20 am
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
I really don't see what you think makes life in the US so great. Same sh*t, different bucket. The daily grind is still the daily grind. Yes you might get a little more sunshine, or a larger house, but you still have to get up and go to work everyday. The 'American Dream' (such as it is) is built on a bunch pf crappy labor laws.
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Nov 28th 2018, 11:21 am
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
In your opinion. Plenty of us think it's pretty great! If you don't like the area you live in, why not move within the UK? Would save you tens of thousands of pounds and be a heck of a lot easier.
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Nov 28th 2018, 1:32 pm
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
Absolutely. I see my family living very happy and successful lives there, with rewarding jobs and taking multiple vacations every year. To be honest, many of my immediate family -- my sister and her three adult children -- have seen more of the US than I have on their travels! Only gripe: the younger end are unhappy about the "leave" vote, seeing it as a backward step that will affect the future of their children.
Nov 28th 2018, 2:08 pm
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
I really don't see what you think makes life in the US so great. Same sh*t, different bucket. The daily grind is still the daily grind. Yes you might get a little more sunshine, or a larger house, but you still have to get up and go to work everyday. The 'American Dream' (such as it is) is built on a bunch pf crappy labor laws.
For me, two years and two months in (early days I guess), it still feels like a holiday. In my role here the acceptance of home working is much greater, so I work from an office three days a week and from home for two - I managed one day in the UK but not every week. I get the better weather of Georgia than anywhere in the UK could offer, and being rubbish at languages I prefer being able to understand people (most of the time) vs. going to somewhere in Spain lets say (not that I am knocking that, I just feel you should embrace the local culture and language and that would be a struggle for me on the latter).
I get to travel easily enough to many of the destinations I would like to see and experience. I get to sit out on the deck and work, in shorts, for a good seven months of the year at least. It's fun.
Now, that isn't for everyone, but I do know that I could not have my current life in the UK. I had no issue with living in the UK at all - I am not a traveler in the home moving sense, I lived in the same Town for 41 years! I am lucky, I got to choose the life I am living, but my luck came from hard work (which I still need to put in, I just get some nice new benefits).
The Grass isn't always greener, hell no, but it can be if you choose the right grass for the right reasons.
Nov 28th 2018, 2:09 pm
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
Gr8 b8 m8
Yeah, while it's a bit cheaper on here the surface, unless you're rich enough, whatever country you move to is going to be the same daily slog, just with different scenery 
Don't get me wrong, I like the US a lot (except when it snows) and a lot of the time I don't even miss the UK/Ireland even though I always look forward for my next visit. Best of both words, or something like that, but unless you have done your research before coming here you may find that it's not always better this side of the pond depending on your situation.
I really don't see what you think makes life in the US so great. Same sh*t, different bucket. The daily grind is still the daily grind. Yes you might get a little more sunshine, or a larger house, but you still have to get up and go to work everyday. The 'American Dream' (such as it is) is built on a bunch pf crappy labor laws.
Don't get me wrong, I like the US a lot (except when it snows) and a lot of the time I don't even miss the UK/Ireland even though I always look forward for my next visit. Best of both words, or something like that, but unless you have done your research before coming here you may find that it's not always better this side of the pond depending on your situation.
Nov 28th 2018, 2:21 pm
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Re: no green card lotto in UK..Why?
It's situations like this that make me think we ought to be able to introduce some sort of voluntary swap program, whereby people like me with legal US residency (indeed, citizenship now) but who want to return to the UK can hand it off to someone who actually wants to live here in return for that person paying the passage home for the returner. This would create no change to the number of immigrants or citizens in any country, and would make at least two people and their families happy.