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Old Jan 8th 2016, 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Except that neither diesel electric trains nor quarry trucks make steam to power a generator!

So you actually proved my point, that what Rickyk wrote was confusing (didn't convey what is actually true).
Ah! Then he is wrong, not confusing.
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Old Jan 8th 2016, 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Owen778
Ah! Then he is wrong, not confusing.
I can agree with that.
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Old Jan 8th 2016, 5:34 pm
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Nissan Leaf AKA Marmite

Love it or loathe it

I live in the wonderful State of Cali, s'up dude

Anyway always makes me raise an eyebrow to see a Tesla and Aston Martin parked next to each other in our apartment block

I know where my money would go, the one covered in my drool..............
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Old Jan 8th 2016, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Nuclear powered vessels need the steam to convert heat energy into rotational energy by means of a turbine generator.
Power from the atom was never so disappointing.
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Old Jan 8th 2016, 6:33 pm
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Power from the atom was never so disappointing.
Ironic isn't it, to produce electricity using nuclear power requires steam technology that the Victorian engineers built empires with, and even the Romans were aware of (primitive rotating steam toys).
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Old Jan 8th 2016, 9:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
What? You think diesel trains run on nuclear power? .... Or on steam running a turbine generator?

Most, the vast majority, of diesel trains use the engine to run a generator, and the electricity generated is used to power electric motors. ..... But we covered that already above. It wouldn't surprise me that big mining trucks use a similar system. It would however surprise me if those trucks ran on nuclear power!
Caterpillar who has stuck with mechanical drive , but they do offer Diesel-Electric versions also.

Some mines also utilize a catenary system, similar to electric trains, that augment the diesel-electric drive of the trucks with eletricity from the cantenary system. The added eletrical juice is for loaded trucks going up a grade.

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Nissan Leaf AKA Marmite

Love it or loathe it

I live in the wonderful State of Cali, s'up dude

Anyway always makes me raise an eyebrow to see a Tesla and Aston Martin parked next to each other in our apartment block

I know where my money would go, the one covered in my drool..............
If I had the money, I'd rather get a trophy truck/pre-runner, but the particular 2 I like cost more than any Aston Martin model except the One-77 .

They start off with a Ford Raptor, which is heavily modified. Cost :$550 to over $650K
Stewart's Raceworks | Specializing in Designing, Building and Maintaining a Variety of Custom Off-Road Race Trucks and Luxury Prerunners.

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Old Jan 9th 2016, 3:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Except that neither diesel electric trains nor quarry trucks make steam to power a generator!

So you actually proved my point, that what Rickyk wrote was confusing (didn't convey what is actually true).

Nuclear powered vessels need the steam to convert heat energy into rotational energy by means of a turbine generator. Diesel engines have a crank shaft that produces rotational energy, so it can be connected directly to an alternator to generate AC power. As RickyK said himself, quarry trucks use a mechanical transmission.
The point being made is that there are many examples out there of two-stage (or multi-stage) power delivery systems; this is not something unique to modern hybrid cars. In many cases, the final delivery stage is electric motors driving the wheels, because there are numerous advantages to an electric 'final stage'. Without getting technical, electric motors run over a wide speed range without the need for "gearboxes", while other forms of power run best at a single speed, or within a narrow band (hence the need for a 'gearbox' in gas/diesel cars).

Having a final stage that is electric allows for multiple options for the 'first stage' - batteries, gasoline engine, or some other to-be-developed source.
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Old Jan 9th 2016, 4:13 pm
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Jaguar made a straight 6 4 litre engine for the army, light tanks, the idea was that it was designed to run on anything from gin to jet a1 to old engine oil, achieved by using variable fuel heating, plus the ability to use spark plugs or compression ignition a la diesel. Now that might be useful? I know merc diesels favour old chip fat but the smell of simmered cod from the exhaust is just too much to bear.
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Old Jan 9th 2016, 4:23 pm
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Modern cruise liners are mainly diesel electric, they use props in pods below the ship that can be swapped out quickly, all to keep them earning money constantly. Giga container ships on the other hand just minimise running costs, and use typically 1 diesel engine and 1 prop though i know a hilarious story. I used to work for the moller brothers aka maersk shipping. A dutchman called hans ran a fleet of rental ships, mainly for the oil explotation industry. One coming over the atlantic, reported a vibration from a propshaft. This normally means youve damaged a prop passing a submerged tree or russian submarine. Hans ordered a dry dock in rotterdam and ordered a new prop from korea which was flown halfway round the world in an antonov. The ship arrived, it was a bite our of a prop, they unscrewed it, but the new one didnt fit. He had. Ordered one for the sister vessel, not the same, so he had to order another one, and keep the vessel in drydock at 10k an hour for 2 days. This cost maersk a million, but being danish, hans was mercilessly ribbed for. 6 months by everyone, but he didnt lose his job. As they say, (being richer than god, 40% of denmarks gdp helps) we expect our people to take business risks, and business mistakes happen, nobody died, no safety rule was broken, so we are content. Good co to work for.
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Originally Posted by uk_grenada
Modern cruise liners are mainly diesel electric, ....
Interestingly, the diesel engines used in the high speed passenger trains (HSTs, the first ones with the wedge-shaped nose) built in the UK in the late 70's and early 80's, used marine diesel engines (one at each end of the train). The engines had been used in/designed for use as generators in warships, and perhaps other marine applications, and worked well running at constant speed/load for hours or days at a time; they did not work so well run under heavy load for several minutes, moderate load for 20-60 minutes, then idled for ten minutes, before repeating the cycle, ..... as happens when you install your marine diesel engines in passenger trains. Unsurprisingly that caused noticeable reliability issues for BR.
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Was driving up I5 earlier this month on the way back from AZ, and saw this at a remote rest area - middle of nowhere. I saw a similar one a hundred miles or so further down, on an earlier trip. Tesla have implemented a network of charging stations separated by 1-200 miles so you can reasonably drive long distances. With a 50% charge taking only 20 minutes, that's not a bad time - a gas stop can easily take 10 minutes if you take a leak and/or grab a snack. There were another 8 or so stations around the corner from the ones shown.

The map on this page shows that there are 591 supercharger stations across the country. https://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger
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Loads of 2nd Hand Leafs in and around Dallas.

I'll be getting a Spark for the missus though. Not convinced of the Leafs battery longevity.
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Old Jan 26th 2016, 9:42 pm
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I don't, but one day I would like to build an electric car conversation using a Nissan Leaf battery or similar.
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I don't, but one day I would like to build an electric car conversation using a Nissan Leaf battery or similar.
It's easy to talk about that sort of project!
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