Nissan Leaf

Old Jan 7th 2016, 1:38 pm
  #151  
Account Closed
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 38,865
ian-mstm has a reputation beyond reputeian-mstm has a reputation beyond reputeian-mstm has a reputation beyond reputeian-mstm has a reputation beyond reputeian-mstm has a reputation beyond reputeian-mstm has a reputation beyond reputeian-mstm has a reputation beyond reputeian-mstm has a reputation beyond reputeian-mstm has a reputation beyond reputeian-mstm has a reputation beyond reputeian-mstm has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
Some such super cars can also run on their electric motors alone, so they can be driven by their millionaire owners into restricted areas like central London as a "zero emission" car.
Speaking of millionaire owners, I didn't win the Powerball last night... but if I had, I'd have wanted one of these puppies.

Ian
ian-mstm is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 4:05 pm
  #152  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Location: Watford
Posts: 1,147
dj6372 has a reputation beyond reputedj6372 has a reputation beyond reputedj6372 has a reputation beyond reputedj6372 has a reputation beyond reputedj6372 has a reputation beyond reputedj6372 has a reputation beyond reputedj6372 has a reputation beyond reputedj6372 has a reputation beyond reputedj6372 has a reputation beyond reputedj6372 has a reputation beyond reputedj6372 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by petitefrancaise View Post
sooooo
10 pages later and I still haven't heard from anyone who has actually driven a Leaf!

It has been interesting and amusing to see the subjects covered though....typical BE!!
Sticking to topic? how dare you!

Anyway chap I worked with had one he had a 30 mile each way commute, he would charge it with a dodgy extension lead out of the window by his desk

He was a large chap and said it had plenty of room, and went like sheet of a shovel and he loved it

Personally I hated it, not the ugliest but close, but just my personal opinion, and my main opposition is the lecky part, but this a whole different discussion/argument

Just not my cup of tea
dj6372 is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 5:04 pm
  #153  
L/R
 
Pulaski's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 49,521
Pulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
All the diesel trains in UK were actually diesel-electric. .....
No they weren't. Several classes of locomotives were diesel hydraulic notably the Class 52 "Wessie" Westerns; the others were Class 42 Warships and Class 35 Hymeks. The diesel engine in these locomotives was connected to the wheels using a hydraulic transmission.

There was a significant weight advantage to using a hydraulic transmission system, and it was felt that using lighter locomotives would cause less damage to the bridges, viaducts, and track bed in the SW of England. The hydraulic transmission was less efficient than the diesel-electric alternative and the locomotives didn't stay in service long; all were withdrawn from BR service by the end of the 1970's.

Last edited by Pulaski; Jan 7th 2016 at 5:23 pm.
Pulaski is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 5:20 pm
  #154  
L/R
 
Pulaski's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 49,521
Pulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by ian-mstm View Post
Speaking of millionaire owners, I didn't win the Powerball last night .....
Me neither. I fear that the only Lamborghini that will ever be within my price-range looks more like this:

Last edited by Pulaski; Jan 7th 2016 at 5:51 pm.
Pulaski is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 5:24 pm
  #155  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
sir_eccles's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 8,106
sir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

One fun thing about the electric cars compared to the old fashioned gas engined ones, 100% torque at zero rpm.
sir_eccles is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 5:41 pm
  #156  
Hit 16's
 
Bahtatboy's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine
Posts: 13,112
Bahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by sir_eccles View Post
One fun thing about the electric cars compared to the old fashioned gas engined ones, 100% torque at zero rpm.
Hence the Tesla's 2.9s 0-60mph.
Bahtatboy is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 5:50 pm
  #157  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
mrken30's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Location: Portlandia Metro
Posts: 7,358
mrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

All the people that I know own leafs recommend getting the one with the fast charge option. It drives like a small car. Not as tinny as some but its a small car. 50 mile realistic range. What else is there to know?
mrken30 is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 6:04 pm
  #158  
Bloody Yank
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: USA! USA!
Posts: 4,186
RoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
It's a compliance car, and will likely be difficult to get spares for because there are so few of them around, outside of California.
No, the Leaf isn't a compliance car. Nissan is the one major automaker that actually wants to make a go of EVs, although the effort hasn't been particularly successful to date.

The others are compliance cars. Sergio Marchionne of Fiat is on record as saying as much -- they move the 500 EVs at a loss because they have to.
RoadWarriorFromLP is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 6:58 pm
  #159  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Steerpike's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA / Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 9,916
Steerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP View Post
No, the Leaf isn't a compliance car. Nissan is the one major automaker that actually wants to make a go of EVs, although the effort hasn't been particularly successful to date.

The others are compliance cars. Sergio Marchionne of Fiat is on record as saying as much -- they move the 500 EVs at a loss because they have to.
I presume you are being specific when you say 'EV', and are not including Hybrids; I have to believe Toyota is committed to the Hybrid concept. And I assume you are eliminating Tesla not because they don't want to make a go of the EV, but because they are not a 'major automaker'.
Steerpike is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 7:23 pm
  #160  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Steerpike's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA / Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 9,916
Steerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
No they weren't. Several classes of locomotives were diesel hydraulic notably the Class 52 "Wessie" Westerns; the others were Class 42 Warships and Class 35 Hymeks. The diesel engine in these locomotives was connected to the wheels using a hydraulic transmission.

There was a significant weight advantage to using a hydraulic transmission system, and it was felt that using lighter locomotives would cause less damage to the bridges, viaducts, and track bed in the SW of England. The hydraulic transmission was less efficient than the diesel-electric alternative and the locomotives didn't stay in service long; all were withdrawn from BR service by the end of the 1970's.
Wow, that brings back memories! I was something of a train fan as a kid in the early 70s, traveling around the country to see them ... trainspotting! What on earth could possess someone to want to do that?!?! (I say that having done it myself - very strange!). I remember those very trains you mention. Wow ... to have that much time on your hands to do something so utterly pointless! Oh to be 12 years old ... I can imagine, now, getting excited by steam trains, but diesels ...

I think it's fair to say the vast majority of diesel trains were diesel-electric. These are the trains I remember from the era .... 'Deltics' (class 55), 'Peaks', class 40, and many more.
Steerpike is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 7:29 pm
  #161  
L/R
 
Pulaski's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 49,521
Pulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
Wow, that brings back memories! I was something of a train fan as a kid in the early 70s, traveling around the country to see them ... trainspotting! What on earth could possess someone to want to do that?!?! ....
I can't imagine.
(I say that having done it myself - very strange!). ....
Er, no comment.
Pulaski is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 9:07 pm
  #162  
Bloody Yank
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: USA! USA!
Posts: 4,186
RoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond reputeRoadWarriorFromLP has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
I presume you are being specific when you say 'EV', and are not including Hybrids; I have to believe Toyota is committed to the Hybrid concept. And I assume you are eliminating Tesla not because they don't want to make a go of the EV, but because they are not a 'major automaker'.
If Toyota believed in EVs, then it would not have bothered with hybrids. Hybrids are an acknowledgement that battery power alone is inadequate.

Tesla is a niche player that loses money, not a major automaker.
RoadWarriorFromLP is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 9:21 pm
  #163  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
mrken30's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Location: Portlandia Metro
Posts: 7,358
mrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

The ultimate EV failure

Sinclair C5 Gallery - Submit your Pictures and Videos
mrken30 is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 10:51 pm
  #164  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
sir_eccles's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 8,106
sir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond reputesir_eccles has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Are We Headed For An Electric Car Crisis?

Interesting analysis.

I get the impression that if car companies hadn't been forced by regulation to improve fuel efficiency, they probably wouldn't have bothered.
sir_eccles is offline  
Old Jan 7th 2016, 11:06 pm
  #165  
L/R
 
Pulaski's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 49,521
Pulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nissan Leaf

Originally Posted by sir_eccles View Post
Are We Headed For An Electric Car Crisis?

Interesting analysis.

I get the impression that if car companies hadn't been forced by regulation to improve fuel efficiency, they probably wouldn't have bothered.
I don't know about a crisis but we headed somewhere weird - perhaps giving away a cheap "compliance car" with every truck, SUV, or large saloon car?

Sooner or later someone is going to realize that setting entirely unattainable efficiency goals is daft, and leads to cheating (whether permitted, such as "buying credits", or not, a la Volkswagen), rather than an actual increase in efficiency.
Pulaski is offline  

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.