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Old Nov 21st 2022, 5:54 am
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Originally Posted by btar
As for why a satnav is necessary, (Giantaxe's posting) well, there are lots of places in North America where there is no cell-phone service - especially in Canada.
Maps can be cached on Google Maps to do route finding/navigation absent a cell service.
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Old Nov 21st 2022, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Maps can be cached on Google Maps to do route finding/navigation absent a cell service.
Something else I didn't know about. IT leaves me behind these days.
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Old Nov 21st 2022, 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by btar
Thanks, that is interesting, I shall look into the sale of refurbished models. In fact I do have one, Garmin exchanged mine under warranty when it failed to find places. The new one was fine although I discovered it was 4 years old as I had to get a new rubber suction thingy as it kept falling off the windscreen, that is one thing Tom-Tom didn't do.
As for why a satnav is necessary, (Giantaxe's posting) well, there are lots of places in North America where there is no cell-phone service - especially in Canada.
I also just leave my satnav in the car and my phone in my pocket. I think the days of people stealing satnavs are over. Also things like Waze used to make my phone get hot. I do have satnav in the car but I still use Garmin. I find the GPS reception better on a dedicated unit compared to a phone. I sometimes put my destination in both the car satnav and the Garmin and they often give different routes. I only have used my phone via android auto, which works quite well.

Also I think legislation against using phones and a "fixed" gps unit may vary
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Old Nov 21st 2022, 4:28 pm
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Traded in the ecoboost and finally picked up a GT. Plan to keep this long term and start modding like crazy (starting by taking off the ridiculously loud exhaust that’s on it). Had the ecoboost for 4 years, car max gave me what I paid for it 4 years ago, so it really was a no brainer.


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Old Nov 21st 2022, 4:36 pm
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As for why a satnav is necessary, (Giantaxe's posting) well, there are lots of places in North America where there is no cell-phone service - especially in Canada.
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Maps can be cached on Google Maps to do route finding/navigation absent a cell service.
I'm a big fan of Google Maps on my phone, and find the route planning, traffic updates, and overall behavior to be far superior to any 'satnav' device, but - in response to Giantaxe's comment - while you can certainly download maps ahead of time for use when away from 'data' coverage, it's my understanding that the 'route planning' is only available using data; is that not correct? That is - if you are out and about in an area with no data coverage, you can 'view' your offline maps but you can't get new directions under those circumstances.

I was in Athens and Istanbul last month, and in both cities, downloaded maps before leaving wifi coverage (I didn't have data service), but ... when I tried to get directions, the message indicated that it needed a live data connection.

Update - this page may explain why I had problems - "Transit, bicycling, or walking directions are unavailable offline" - we were walking at the time. Also - (obviously) you aren't going to get traffic updates or re-routes for any reason. Having read this, I guess I could have asked for driving directions!
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Old Nov 21st 2022, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Steerpike
I'm a big fan of Google Maps on my phone, and find the route planning, traffic updates, and overall behavior to be far superior to any 'satnav' device, but - in response to Giantaxe's comment - while you can certainly download maps ahead of time for use when away from 'data' coverage, it's my understanding that the 'route planning' is only available using data; is that not correct? That is - if you are out and about in an area with no data coverage, you can 'view' your offline maps but you can't get new directions under those circumstances.

I was in Athens and Istanbul last month, and in both cities, downloaded maps before leaving wifi coverage (I didn't have data service), but ... when I tried to get directions, the message indicated that it needed a live data connection.

Update - this page may explain why I had problems - "Transit, bicycling, or walking directions are unavailable offline" - we were walking at the time. Also - (obviously) you aren't going to get traffic updates or re-routes for any reason. Having read this, I guess I could have asked for driving directions!
Right, only driving directions. The other limitation is that you don't get lane guidance. If by re-routes you mean adjusting your route if you've taken a wrong turn, pretty sure that works offline. For walking directions, I use the hiking App Gaia which - if you get the paid version - also allows you to use cached maps and follow routes offline. It does bike routes too, although I've never tried it.

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Old Nov 21st 2022, 10:40 pm
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Originally Posted by excpomea
When traveling in the UK we always use waze app on our phones. Never an issue.
Of course you do need a UK data plan. We just purchase a pay as you go sim card with a set amount of data and free calls from the airport terminal upon arrival.
I live in the UK now, so no issues on having data but don't want to use it all driving. Also, I primarily want the sat nav so that I can just drive with a quick glance at the screen for lanes etc and the bossy voice telling me when to turn where. Phone screen is a bit small for that.. Don't need the dashcam, amazon alexa connection, text message from phone, etc etc etc. Just the basics.
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Old Nov 22nd 2022, 1:26 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Assuming you have a smartphone, what are the advantages of using a SatNav?
I can't see any. Just something else to carry around, worry about being stolen.
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Old Nov 22nd 2022, 4:41 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Right, only driving directions. The other limitation is that you don't get lane guidance. If by re-routes you mean adjusting your route if you've taken a wrong turn, pretty sure that works offline. For walking directions, I use the hiking App Gaia which - if you get the paid version - also allows you to use cached maps and follow routes offline. It does bike routes too, although I've never tried it.
Google maps, if you've downloaded the area maps, will work and adjust your routes for you while off line. You don't get traffic data though, so the routes might not be the fastest routes if there's been an accident etc. And you don't get police cam type alerts.
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Old Nov 24th 2022, 7:36 am
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I might have taken my truck for a service yesterday and 'accidentally' came home with a different one...

Happy Thanksgiving all!




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Old Nov 24th 2022, 8:04 am
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Nice truck. Good color. The front bumper will be good protection on Atlanta freeways.
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Old Nov 24th 2022, 8:09 am
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Atlanta freeways

I'm more worried about my backwoods deer-central daily drive!
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Atlanta freeways

I'm more worried about my backwoods deer-central daily drive!
I hear you about the deer. There is seven in my yard right now.
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Old Nov 24th 2022, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by civilservant
I might have taken my truck for a service yesterday and 'accidentally' came home with a different one...

Happy Thanksgiving all!
I hate it when that happens!! Nice truck.
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Atlanta freeways

I'm more worried about my backwoods deer-central daily drive!
Same here we have had around 7 deer collisions, one a total loss on the second deer and a new Yukon XL Denali hit a big buck. Have a Ranch Hand bumper on my truck and a very solid brush bar on one of the Defenders. Bears are also an issue as the population is increasing dramatically. A couple of years ago when deer numbers were down due to Chronic Wasting Disease a story going around the locals was that the insurance companies had a secret coyote breeding farm in Kansas no idea why Kansas but at the dead of night a tractor trailer would show up and release the coyotes who killed the fawns.
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