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Old Apr 21st 2022, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
I am not a fan of plugin hybrids as I feel they are the worst of both worlds in the sense that you have both an internal combustion engine _and_ a large battery. That takes space up not only under the hood for the engine but also, typically, in cargo space either through a raised floor or a rectangular "box". Otoh, they do remove "range anxiety" whilst at the same time providing mileage that can far exceed what a hybrid will give you.
And let you drive on electric only most days if your mileage is low, I am looking at one now with a target of 50 miles electric range. That would be enough for around town and get me to my lake house where I could charge overnight. Still want ICE option for skiing and NYC airports where I may not be able to charge. But agree that the need to service the ice engine will add cost.
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Old Apr 21st 2022, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
I am not a fan of plugin hybrids as I feel they are the worst of both worlds in the sense that you have both an internal combustion engine _and_ a large battery. That takes space up not only under the hood for the engine but also, typically, in cargo space either through a raised floor or a rectangular "box". Otoh, they do remove "range anxiety" whilst at the same time providing mileage that can far exceed what a hybrid will give you.
Are there any 'plug-ins' that have very small ICEs, which act as a generator only / primarily? I seem to recall the original Chevy Volt was like that - the ICE didn't even have a direct connection to the drive train, it was there really just to top up the battery. That seems like a possible future solution, and should reduce complexity if you don't have to feed into the drivetrain.
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Originally Posted by Oakvillian
Anybody with real-world experience of living with a fully electric or PHEV that isn't a gargantua-mobile?
My Kia EV6 is pictured a little earlier in this thread. It is very easy to live with, and makes me smile every day.
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Old Apr 22nd 2022, 2:20 am
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My Kia EV6 is pictured a little earlier in this thread. It is very easy to live with, and makes me smile every day.
Oh yes. I saw that post, and thought what a good-looking car that is. I'll add it to the list for Herself's consideration!
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Old Apr 23rd 2022, 12:10 pm
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When I was young I very conservatively drove older cars. To me the cars I liked best were the ones that cost the less and took me the most miles. Never worrying about getting a few scratches or getting stolen. I still feel that way but also don’t want to die and have others spend the generous retirement my wife and I have accrued. She is probably more frugal than me. I bought a new 2020 Corolla and may trade in for new car

in a few weeks. If any new arrivals are in need of a nearly new car I had rather sell cheap and both could come out ahead rather than give to a dealer as a trade. If this might appeal to anyone PM me and I could supply details.
I went to local Honda dealer today in Huntsville, Al to look at the few Civics they had in stock. In talking with salesperson he said they were well stocked with HRV’s and could make a good deal. I ended up trading for one. I got 17,200 trade in plus the sales tax saving was another 1600.

So for 12,053 I got a new car.
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Old Apr 25th 2022, 5:22 am
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Originally Posted by ddsrph
I went to local Honda dealer today in Huntsville, Al to look at the few Civics they had in stock. In talking with salesperson he said they were well stocked with HRV’s and could make a good deal. I ended up trading for one. I got 17,200 trade in plus the sales tax saving was another 1600.
... So for 12,053 I got a new car.
That sounds like you got a pretty nice deal.

Mrs P looked at an HRV a few years ago, but it was smaller inside than she was looking for, and also reported that it was noisy compared to her Accord - sounded like it needed more sound insulation, and/or the engine was working harder. On this plus side, it was available, at that time at least, with a manual transmission. In the end we got another Accord.
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Old Apr 25th 2022, 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
That sounds like you got a pretty nice deal.

Mrs P looked at an HRV a few years ago, but it was smaller inside than she was looking for, and also reported that it was noisy compared to her Accord - sounded like it needed more sound insulation, and/or the engine was working harder. On this plus side, it was available, at that time at least, with a manual transmission. In the end we got another Accord.
I didn’t even test drive. It seems very similar driving and noise wise to my Corolla. I think the Accord is a much better car than both. The HRV has a sunroof which I like.
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Old Apr 25th 2022, 8:36 am
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I didn’t even test drive. ....
So same as my BMW, per posts above. ^ Not only did I not test drive it, I didn't even see it (other than in pictures) before it arrived on a truck outside my home. In fact I hadn't driven any other BMW either; this was my first, and to date, only experience of driving a BMW.

It had its first service under my ownership recently, and as I don't have the service history, but it is only approaching 5 years old and with very low mileage, under advice from the specialist I am taking it to, I went with a standard service and a brake fluid flush, as it is due around this age and likely wouldn't have had one earlier. It will be getting more maintenance as time goes by, but to date I have had zero issues with it.

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Old Apr 25th 2022, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
So same as my BMW, per posts above. ^ Not only did I not test drive it, I didn't even see it (other than in pictures) before it arrived on a truck outside my home. In fact I hadn't driven any other BMW either; this was my first, and to date, only experience of driving a BMW.

It had its first service under my ownership recently, and as I don't have the service history, but it only approaching 5 years old and very low mileage, under advice from the specialist I am taking it to, I went with a standard service and a brake fluid flush, as it is due around this age and likely wouldn't have had one earlier. It will be getting more maintenance as time goes by, but to date I have had zero issues with it.
I missed a very good deal recently. My cousin in Nashville bought a BMW suv type car new in 2017 and only put 9000 miles on it. It failed the Nashville emissions test this year and he sold it back to BMW dealer for a even 20k. We have no emissions test in Moore county.
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I missed a very good deal recently. My cousin in Nashville bought a BMW suv type car new in 2017 and only put 9000 miles on it. It failed the Nashville emissions test this year and he sold it back to BMW dealer for a even 20k. We have no emissions test in Moore county.
Holy crap - for a 2017 vehicle with only 9,000 miles to fail an emissions test is quite concerning. When I had my last vehicle 'smog tested', I took a peek at the result. The thresholds for various pollutants were, shall we say, quite generous. If the limit for pollutant 'x' was, say, 10,000 ppm, my car registered about 100 ppm - so I was a very long way from failing. Something must have been busted for a relatively new car to fail, I think!

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.... Something must have been busted for a relatively new car to fail, I think!
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, that it might not have been quite the deal it appeared as modern cars are designed to run very cleanly. So that it failed the emissions test at very low mileage might have been indicative of significant, and potentially expensive issues. I hear that sometimes extremely low mileage vehicles can be susceptible to piston ring and cylinder lining wear, leading to excessive oil burning.

Another part of me wonders if producing a terrible emissions test was a convenient way to slash the trade-in price for the dealer.
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He didn’t trade it in. He just took it back to dealer after test failed yelling and screaming about why it failed. To shut him up they bought it back on the spot for cash. He has since bought a Ford. I know VW diesels a few years ago had a big scandal of not meeting published emissions standards and ended up buying back thousands of cars. I can’t imagine Nashville having that strict of standards and have heard there is a plan to do away with emissions testing altogether. My cousin
is always over his head in debt so there may be more to the story.
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Current argument with the wife....

She likes to take the GLE-350 and E-350 to the car wash.. I say for those kind of vehicles a 'detail' is the only way forward. Too much risk of scratching and wear and tear to the bodywork.

Curious as to where people fall on car wash vs detailing (paid or DIY)..
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Current argument with the wife....

She likes to take the GLE-350 and E-350 to the car wash.. I say for those kind of vehicles a 'detail' is the only way forward. Too much risk of scratching and wear and tear to the bodywork.

Curious as to where people fall on car wash vs detailing (paid or DIY)..
Car wash (touchless). Anything else, I DIY.

That or let her hand it over to the local high school with their communal bucket and sponge in the Stop and Shop parking lot**.

**Dont really
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Car wash (touchless). Anything else, I DIY.

That or let her hand it over to the local high school with their communal bucket and sponge in the Stop and Shop parking lot**.

**Dont really
Def not handing it over to bucket and sponge brigade! Touchless car wash is the current compromise, although, by compromise I mean that is what she has decided to do.
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