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Old Aug 18th 2020, 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by mrken30
Is anyone still driving their car? I want a new car, but I have only driven 100 miles since March. Thinking about going down to a one car family.
Technically speaking we're a one car family. If it has used two tankfuls since March I'd be surprised, although modom went back to school two weeks ago so it's now back up to normal usage. As for my truck, it's still chewing up gas like it's going out of fashion.
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Old Aug 18th 2020, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
I'd like a new car too, but I wouldn't buy one if I was only driving 200 miles a year. In fact even though I am driving a lot more than you, I won't be getting another vehicle until such time as things return to something closer to normality.

We have gone from one tank/vehicle/ week, or about 40 gallons/week, to about one tank/ vehicle/ two months, or about 20 gallons/mth.
I've hardly driven since March, other than one 750-mile drive from CA to AZ. But I do have 90,000 miles on it, and I decided that, if the stock-market doesn't crash between now and next year, I may treat myself to a new one! At one point, my retirement was down by 'significant' 6 figures so a new car would be a celebration of recovery! But I'm going to wait to see what happens first ...
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My mileage seems to have gone up, 150 miles today, and Monday, 160 something tomorrow and Thursday.

Now that gas has gone up it is getting expensive.
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Originally Posted by mrken30
Is anyone still driving their car? I want a new car, but I have only driven 100 miles since March. Thinking about going down to a one car family.
Nope. Not since I bought a bike!
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Old Aug 18th 2020, 4:11 pm
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Nope. Not since I bought a bike!
Didn't you just buy a house? Doesn't that absolutely dictate a truck or SUV for the near-daily trips to Home Depot?!
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Old Aug 19th 2020, 1:04 am
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Originally Posted by mrken30
Looked at getting a leaf, but the insurance was $1200 , which is a lot for a little car.
Have you considered the VW e-Golf? If you don't need huge range it's great for town driving.

I got a brand new SEL Premium for just over $20k earlier this year (after the Federal tax credit). Insurance is about $250.
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Didn't you just buy a house? Doesn't that absolutely dictate a truck or SUV for the near-daily trips to Home Depot?!
Haha! The wife has a CX9 which has quite a bit of space in it. I had a 150 lariat sport as a loaner when my old work vehicle needed work. I actually liked it...... for a bit. The V6 ecoboost engine it had in it was a beast! I think the thing would slay my mustang. Really nice inside too. What I couldn’t get over, and I’m not sure if all trucks are the same, is it was so softly sprung, it bobbed as I went down the road. I swear it felt like being on a boat!
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My BMW - bought in the last century! - is still going strong and approaching 300k miles. But we did recently spring for a new Honda CR-V hybrid. It took me a long time to come around to the idea of a hybrid, but it really does get more gas mileage and it does just a little to help car manufacturers invest more in electric motor technology. We had a long debate about the efficacy of buying a new car in the middle of a pandemic, but even though I am not an advocate of "trickle down economics" we eventually convinced ourselves it was the right thing to do given we'd been researching this for a long time and the car it was replacing was even older than my BMW. Being able to sleep in the back of it is a big plus for travelling around the American west. I'll keep the BMW until it needs a major repair, and then in retirement we'll stick with having one car.

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Old Aug 19th 2020, 4:32 am
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My BMW - bought in the last century! - is still going strong and approaching 300k miles. But we did recently spring for a new Honda CR-V hybrid. It took me a long time to come around to the idea of a hybrid, but it really does get more gas mileage and it does just a little to help car manufacturers invest more in electric motor technology. We had a long debate about the efficacy of buying a new car in the middle of a pandemic, but even though I am not an advocate of "trickle down economics" we eventually convinced ourselves it was the right thing to do given we'd been researching this for a long time and the car it was replacing was even older than my BMW. Being able to sleep in the back of it is a big plus for travelling around the American west. I'll keep the BMW until it needs a major repair, and then in retirement we'll stick with having one car.
Interesting ... didn't realize Honda had released a hybrid version of the CR-V! I had a CR-V from about 2013 to 2016, during which time I put 90,000 miles on it! I quite liked it, and really appreciated the seating position (my back appreciated it!). I ended up replacing it with a used Lexus RX350, which is much, much quieter but not as smooth as I'd like. What made you choose a Honda over Toyota, who seem to be the tech leaders in the hybrid space?

I didn't realize you could sleep in the back of a CR-V, but my neighbor did say he too sleeps in the back of his SUV. One challenge that comes to mind with that is... I presume you need to empty out the back in order to sleep in it, and emptying out the back when you are on a road-trip seems a bit counter-productive ... when I do road trips, the back is usually chock-a-block with 'stuff'!
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Old Aug 19th 2020, 4:59 am
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Interesting ... didn't realize Honda had released a hybrid version of the CR-V! I had a CR-V from about 2013 to 2016, during which time I put 90,000 miles on it! I quite liked it, and really appreciated the seating position (my back appreciated it!). I ended up replacing it with a used Lexus RX350, which is much, much quieter but not as smooth as I'd like. What made you choose a Honda over Toyota, who seem to be the tech leaders in the hybrid space?
2020 is the first model year that Honda re-introduced a hybrid version. It uses the same technology as the hybrid Accord which has been around a while. The seats on the Toyota Rav4 do not fold completely flat, so that ruled out sleeping in it. We had a lot of fun lying down in the back of SUVs to see what worked and what didn't! In the Honda, the floor slopes up very slightly from back to front but it's not noticeable when lying on it. All this is due to battery placement. Obviously a drawback of hybrid technology is more components to house. This is especially true of plugin hybrids, a technology I'm not sold on in the slightest. The Subaru Crosstrek plugin, for example, has the battery above floor level right by the hatchback. Crazy!

I have been surprised how comfortable the car is. I was expecting it to be a real downgrade from my BMW, but it doesn't feel that way. We did splash for a high trim level with leather seats, adjustable lumbar support, dual climate control etc.

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I didn't realize you could sleep in the back of a CR-V, but my neighbor did say he too sleeps in the back of his SUV. One challenge that comes to mind with that is... I presume you need to empty out the back in order to sleep in it, and emptying out the back when you are on a road-trip seems a bit counter-productive ... when I do road trips, the back is usually chock-a-block with 'stuff'!
Neither of us is tall, so it works fine for us. It definitely wouldn't work for tall people.

There's plenty of room behind the front seats to store stuff on shorter trips - we've done two to the Sierra Nevada so far. For longer road trips, we'll purchase one of those roof containers that attach to the roof rack.
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Old Aug 19th 2020, 5:15 am
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2020 is the first model year that Honda re-introduced a hybrid version. It uses the same technology as the hybrid Accord which has been around a while. The seats on the Toyota Rav4 do not fold completely flat, so that ruled out sleeping in it. We had a lot of fun lying down in the back of SUVs to see what worked and what didn't! In the Honda, the floor slopes up very slightly from back to front but it's not noticeable when lying on it. All this is due to battery placement. Obviously a drawback of hybrid technology is more components to house. This is especially true of plugin hybrids, a technology I'm not sold on in the slightest. The Subaru Crosstrek plugin, for example, has the battery above floor level right by the hatchback. Crazy!

I have been surprised how comfortable the car is. I was expecting it to be a real downgrade from my BMW, but it doesn't feel that way. We did splash for a high trim level with leather seats, adjustable lumbar support, dual climate control etc.
In my experience, you have to go with the top trim package to get the fully adjustable seats, and it's the fully adjustable seats that make all the difference. In my opinion, those mechanical 'hand crank' raise/lower seat bases in just about all lower trim-level cars are a joke! You can't raise front vs rear, for example. And only if you get the electric controls can you have 'memory' options, which are essential when you have two drivers (of different size ). The biggest issue in this regard I had with my CR-V was that only the drivers seat was adjustable. The passenger seat would not raise/lower, even in the top trim level. With my Lexus RX350, the passenger seat gets the full 8-way adjustment, just like the driver seat, which my (extremely short!) g/f appreciates, and I appreciated when she took over driving responsibilities (once in a million years...).

Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Neither of us is tall, so it works fine for us. It definitely wouldn't work for tall people.

There's plenty of room behind the front seats to store stuff on shorter trips - we've done two to the Sierra Nevada so far. For longer road trips, we'll purchase one of those roof containers that attach to the roof rack.
The idea of sleeping in my SUV is definitely intriguing and one I've never even contemplated before! Currently, on my long drive from AZ to CA, I just recline the front seat and take a nap, which works ok.

Did you look at the Pilot - it's longer, but looks similar. Also ... did you look at the Toyota Highlander?
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I recently added a 2020 Subaru WRX STI to the collection, dealerships were absolutely desperate to shift things off the lot so got a killer deal. Still have the Raptor, recently had an A.R.E topper put on it, but may look to sell it in the new year.

MiL recently got a new Nissan Rogue, drives nice and is fairly spacious.
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Did you look at the Pilot - it's longer, but looks similar. Also ... did you look at the Toyota Highlander?
Those two vehicles are a lot bigger so we didn’t look at them.

Another thing I like about the hybrid CR-V is paddle shifters to increase regenerative braking. Very cool in that it not only saves your brakes as per downshifting but also increases fuel efficiency especially descending from somewhere like the Sierra Nevada, for example.
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Wife wants an Accord as her next car later in the year (currently drives a Fusion) but my FIL insists that we shouldn't buy a Honda because they have timing chains.

My research implies that they stopped using chains and went to belts in 2016. Can anyone with one confirm?
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Wife wants an Accord as her next car later in the year (currently drives a Fusion) but my FIL insists that we shouldn't buy a Honda because they have timing chains.

My research implies that they stopped using chains and went to belts in 2016. Can anyone with one confirm?
Chains, belts it makes no difference. They both work well with required maintenance.


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