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Old Sep 16th 2013, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
He was asking about a car, not a hobby!
Well it's bound to be low milage.
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Well it's bound to be low milage.
And likely to stay that way, it would be safe to bet!
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Unless there are several expensive things wrong with your Towncar, I can't help but wonder if you shouldn't just keep the $5,000 and use it to repair and renovate that as needs be?
I hear what you are saying. It just seems that each time it's another big thing to fix. And to be honest it isn't the most practical or efficient car.

Strictly speaking I don't have the 5k though. Some of it would have been realized from the sale of said Towncar.
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Hypothetically speaking, if one was looking for a used car to be used as secondary car, light duty, occasional use sort of thing. Suppose one had only $5k-ish to play with and wanted a nice reliable midsize sedan sort of thing.
If you live on a hill...there's a nice old MG Midget for sale up the road from me
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All you need is an old Buick with a USA sticker on the back, and move to Florida. Tweed jacket, big cigar, you're all set!

The GM 3800 is a great engine, if I was looking at Buicks it would be on the required list. The 3100s can be iffy. Most used older cars will have some sort of problems and Japanese cars seem a little less quality than they used to be. I'd be inclined towards vehicles that have a good documented service history regardless of make. I get very specific when I buy cars so I really don't have a model suggestion.

Tough going from a Town Car to a Corolla!

My Cleveland 'nephews' drive a lot of old Civics, pay a few hundred and drive them a year or two. They will get greasy though.

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How about a TR7?
ROTFLMAO!!

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If you live on a hill...there's a nice old MG Midget for sale up the road from me
Going the classic route is tempting but I fear the need for it to start and go and stop under its own power on demand may be a deal breaker.
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Going the classic route is tempting but I fear the need for it to start and go and stop under its own power on demand may be a deal breaker.
You don't actually need a hill for most MGs. You can just stick your feet out the hole in the foot well and run.

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What do people think about Volvos in the US (I'm beginning to learn that the reputation of some Euro brands in the US is different to back in Europe)?

Seems a 2007-8ish S40 can be had for about 10k.
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What do people think about Volvos in the US (I'm beginning to learn that the reputation of some Euro brands in the US is different to back in Europe)?

Seems a 2007-8ish S40 can be had for about 10k.
I don't know if it is anything to go by but my mother in law just bought a 2002 Saab that is in bloody good nick for an 11 year old car with well over 100K on the clock. I'd imagine Volvos are more reliable still but I could be wrong.
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What do people think about Volvos in the US (I'm beginning to learn that the reputation of some Euro brands in the US is different to back in Europe)?

Seems a 2007-8ish S40 can be had for about 10k.
Volvo's market share is declining, rapidly, and withdrawal from the US market is predicted. Used prices may already reflect that - obsolete brands lose value dramatically, and I saw a nice looking late model (I'd guess about 3-4 years old, with no accident damage) SAAB about 12 months ago that had come direct from an auction, sitting on a trailer in a scrap yard, stripped of it's alloy wheels and resting on its belly. I suspect that Volvos will go the same way in 2 years or so.

I have a sneaking suspicion that as Volvo went from a semi-domestic Ford-backed brand to a Chinese owned brand, Volvo's market appeal took a massive credibility hit.

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I don't know if it is anything to go by but my mother in law just bought a 2002 Saab that is in bloody good nick for an 11 year old car with well over 100K on the clock. I'd imagine Volvos are more reliable still but I could be wrong.
Saab's are shit, anything between 2000-2006 are money pits and especially worse.

One thing though, they are cheaper to do a head gasket repair than a Dodge Durango and if you find a old Saab tech who knows his stuff and hacking off connectors for some sensors, you can get Porches or Toyota sensors for about $20 and switch out the connectors from the Saab, which if you can find new/refurb will set you back a $100 plus.

Volvo's, from folks I know who own them are much more reliable and still hold out well in an accident and I thought the S40/60/80 are all quite nice rides.
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Saab's are shit, anything between 2000-2006 are money pits and especially worse.

One thing though, they are cheaper to do a head gasket repair than a Dodge Durango and if you find a old Saab tech who knows his stuff and hacking off connectors for some sensors, you can get Porches or Toyota sensors for about $20 and switch out the connectors from the Saab, which if you can find new/refurb will set you back a $100 plus.

Volvo's, from folks I know who own them are much more reliable and still hold out well in an accident and I thought the S40/60/80 are all quite nice rides.
This one must be well looked after then because I drove it and it was in better shape than my car.

Though, the fact that my car is a 2006 Suzuki, built in Korea using a Daewoo platform (AKA the Chevrolet Lacetti - reasonably priced car ), may have something to do with that assessment
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The GM 3800 is a great engine, if I was looking at Buicks it would be on the required list.
Wouldn't go that far. From the mid 90's to mid 2000's they were putting plastic intake manifolds on them because, you know, that's really intelligent and what could possibly go wrong. Oooops, the Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve burned holes in the plastic manifold and allowed engine coolant into the crankcase. It was easy enough not to notice the problem until it had destroyed the engine. A fine example of GM screwups just to save a buck. They could fill a book.
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This one must be well looked after then because I drove it and it was in better shape than my car.
When they work, they're lovely and they do drive well and the hard turbo in the Aero is lovely and gotta love the winter drive mode.

It's when they don't, they're well expensive to sort out, way more than a domestic/Japanese car.....that and as it's a dead car, new parts are through the roof and refurb/second hand parts aren't that cheap either.

Good thing is, not much tends to fall off at the 100K mark, most of it happens at 80K and then 120K and once you've had the head gasket done, they never seem to last more than 30K before needing to get redone and heads skimmed, unless you replace them but that's just silly money.
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When they work, they're lovely and they do drive well and the hard turbo in the Aero is lovely and gotta love the winter drive mode.

It's when they don't, they're well expensive to sort out, way more than a domestic/Japanese car.....that and as it's a dead car, new parts are through the roof and refurb/second hand parts aren't that cheap either.

Good thing is, not much tends to fall off at the 100K mark, most of it happens at 80K and then 120K and once you've had the head gasket done, they never seem to last more than 30K before needing to get redone and heads skimmed, unless you replace them but that's just silly money.
I don't think she drives much anyway. It's about 20 miles each way to visit us but other than that, she travels less than 5 to get to work. She should get plenty of use out of it, while she (finally) is able to build up some credit and trade it in.
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