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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 1:08 pm
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Originally Posted by TimNiceBut
..... If you can live with RWD, two seats and two seat-like sculptures in the back that are only there for insurance purposes, the Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ might be worth a look. .....
That was one I suggested, and it is probably the best commercially available (in the US) small sports car this side of a Lotus. For me the RWD would be a plus, but I suspect I wouldn't actually fit into the car.
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 1:17 pm
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Fiat Abarth?
3.2L TT?
Lotus Elise - that is more fun than an MX-5, but not great if you have comfort high (i.e. on) your list.
I don't think the S3 was ever brought out here.
BMW 135?
Honda S2000?
Toyota MR2?

There really aren't many hatches out there though.
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Originally Posted by Mr Weeze
Fiat Abarth?
3.2L TT?
Lotus Elise - that is more fun than an MX-5, but not great if you have comfort high (i.e. on) your list.
I don't think the S3 was ever brought out here.
BMW 135?
Honda S2000?
Toyota MR2?

There really aren't many hatches out there though.
I think if I stick to a 2 seater it will be either another MX-5 or an Elise. The hatch comes into play as I would like some room in the back for a dog or two. Only thing is, I don't want to give up my fun to get it.
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 1:25 pm
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If you need something for the dogs, how's about a scooby in 'wagon' form?
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Mr Weeze
Fiat Abarth?
3.2L TT?
Lotus Elise - that is more fun than an MX-5, but not great if you have comfort high (i.e. on) your list.
I don't think the S3 was ever brought out here.
BMW 135?
Honda S2000?
Toyota MR2? ......
The last two on your list are long since out of production, four and six years respectively.
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 2:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
The last two on your list are long since out of production, four and six years respectively.
I was assuming it didn't have to be new.
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 2:34 pm
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Been looking at the Mazda Speed 3 and also the Focus ST. Also the Veloster Turbo and the Mini Paceman. Trying to understand what the difference is between the Fiesta ST and the Focus.. Just size possibly? (I haven't seen one other than online).

I'm not in a great rush... just interested enough to start looking.

Not a hatch, but also giving a hard look to the Mini Coupe.
Fiesta is a subcompact. ST motor is 1.6 liter, 197 hp.

Focus is a compact. ST motor is a 2.0-liter, 252 hp.

The standard Mazda 3 will be an all new model for 2014. However, the Mazdaspeed3 will remain a carryover of the old model, probably for one more year. It's not certain what the next version of that model will be like, but the expectation that it won't be a turbo.

The Veloster isn't a hot hatch. If you want a small car with driving dynamics, then keep driving past the Hyundai dealer.

The natural rival of the Focus ST is the VW GTI or Golf R. But the VW's are also due for replacement -- the new models are being released in Europe shortly, but they'll be delayed in the US for another year.
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 3:02 pm
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I was assuming it didn't have to be new.
Or, apparently, nearly new either. .... What about a Jensen Healey?
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Buying a used Buick from a retiree who has trouble finding the accelerator is probably a wise idea. Lots of depreciation, without much wear and tear.

Buying a used hot hatch probably isn't. It's better to be the first owner who can be sure that it has been properly broken in and maintained, instead of buying it from some yahoo who treated it as Keith Moon would have treated a snare drum.

(Incidentally, there is absolutely no need to tip the car salesman.)
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 3:21 pm
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.... (Incidentally, there is absolutely no need to tip the car salesman.)
Maybe not in your area, but Bob assured me that tipping 25%-30% is de rigueur in Massachusetts.
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Still look like the Focus ST has to be the front runner (assuming I can force myself out of another MX-5).

Lots of interesting info guys, thanks!

Whatever i do decide on, it will be new, so 2014 models i guess.

Think I'm down to looking at the Mazda Speed 3 and the Focus ST in a hatch, or another MX-5 or a Mini Coupe if I stick to a 2 seater.

What I REALLY need is a mini AND an ST.
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I'll throw a vote in for the Golf GTI. The wife drives a 2012 model and I have to say it is pretty amazing. I actually drive an S2000 and between the 2 cars we have pretty much everything covered fun wise. The GTI is a very easy drive and is very rewarding. We considered a Subaru WRX hatch and a Mazda 3 speed but the GTI was much better for daily driving. The other 2 had more power but we felt they would be harder to live with long term.
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But... Mini Coupe... But... Bulldog capacity fail... gah!

I can see I'm gonna go back and forth on this for a while.

Maybe another MX-5 with stacked bulldogs in the passenger seat.......
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But... Mini Coupe... But... Bulldog capacity fail... gah!

I can see I'm gonna go back and forth on this for a while.

Maybe another MX-5 with stacked bulldogs in the passenger seat.......
Trailer for them?

Or motorbike and side car?
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