Let's talk about cars
#7081
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Joined: Feb 2015
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 565
Re: Let's talk about cars
Same, I put it in my calendar every 5 months. When I called last month they didn't even do the usual $99 for 12 months, $49 for 6 months, put you on hold, oh how about $25 for 5 months then routine, they just went straight for the $25.
#7082
Re: Let's talk about cars
I'm thinking of buying a Camaro and considering actually buying new rather than used which is my normal route. If I'm going to buy new I'll custom order as I want it to be the exact spec I want and not something from the lot. I've only spoken to my local Chevy dealer so far but the guy there claims that I order, put down $500 deposit and then we don't negotiate the price until the car is delivered as it's the current incentives at delivery that get us to a starting price.
Is this normal? I would expect to negotiate price at the time of ordering, I'm not sure I want to order without knowing what I'm really get into.
Is this normal? I would expect to negotiate price at the time of ordering, I'm not sure I want to order without knowing what I'm really get into.
#7084
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Joined: Jun 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 91
Re: Let's talk about cars
I think you're right. Thanks all for the responses, I thought this approach sounded odd. I'm visiting the dealer this afternoon, could be a quick discussion if they don't want to move on this point.
#7085
Re: Let's talk about cars
A deposit should secure the maximum price; there's always the chance that (as Lansbury experienced) there's a better manufacturer rebate when the car reaches the dealer's lot, in which case the dealer might honour that out of a sense of goodwill. But under no circumstances would I pay a deposit for a car and not know exactly how much the final sale cost would be.
#7086
Re: Let's talk about cars
As others have said, agree the price (in writing) and then secure that exact price with a deposit.
I've been cruising round in a full size F150 for the last 10 days while my Colorado is in the shop for Hail Repair (hood is being replaced, 13 or so dents on the roof which they've managed to get out with PDR).
Should hopefully have it back this week! They managed to sneak mine in as it "wasn't that bad". Within 5 days of the hail storm they were booked up until October, so I'm pretty grateful they could sneak mine in.
I've been cruising round in a full size F150 for the last 10 days while my Colorado is in the shop for Hail Repair (hood is being replaced, 13 or so dents on the roof which they've managed to get out with PDR).
Should hopefully have it back this week! They managed to sneak mine in as it "wasn't that bad". Within 5 days of the hail storm they were booked up until October, so I'm pretty grateful they could sneak mine in.
#7087
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
Re: Let's talk about cars
As others have said, agree the price (in writing) and then secure that exact price with a deposit.
I've been cruising round in a full size F150 for the last 10 days while my Colorado is in the shop for Hail Repair (hood is being replaced, 13 or so dents on the roof which they've managed to get out with PDR).
Should hopefully have it back this week! They managed to sneak mine in as it "wasn't that bad". Within 5 days of the hail storm they were booked up until October, so I'm pretty grateful they could sneak mine in.
I've been cruising round in a full size F150 for the last 10 days while my Colorado is in the shop for Hail Repair (hood is being replaced, 13 or so dents on the roof which they've managed to get out with PDR).
Should hopefully have it back this week! They managed to sneak mine in as it "wasn't that bad". Within 5 days of the hail storm they were booked up until October, so I'm pretty grateful they could sneak mine in.
#7088
Re: Let's talk about cars
It wasn't bad, I wouldn't take it over my Colorado though (which I got back last night). It was too big - it was the full size cab with the large bed which was an absolute nightmare trying to find a spot big enough if we ventured out into Boulder and Denver.
Just glad to have mine back!
Just glad to have mine back!
#7089
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
Re: Let's talk about cars
So had the 8ft bed, always handy on a trip to HD and getting wood in. Just came back from Breck and it dumped down, must be months since I last used my windscreen wipers.
When I first came over I drove a Ranger and they now feel tiny, I know the dog would not like it.
When I first came over I drove a Ranger and they now feel tiny, I know the dog would not like it.
#7090
Re: Let's talk about cars
Why do these bloody great trucks have such a piss poor payload rating???
Eg: Toyota Tundra 6'5" bed, takes up loads of room, overhangs standard sized parking spaces by quite a lot of feet, measly payload rating 1410lbs.
So that's 220lb for a fat bastard driver,
300lb ish of tools in the back of the cab,
58lb for two stepladders,
1920lbs in 32 60lb bags of concrete in the bed on top of
1500lbs (ish) of sand that came out of the holes that the concrete is going in.
Not quite on the bump stops but I wouldn't have wanted to put another twenty bags in the remaiming free space...
Eg: Toyota Tundra 6'5" bed, takes up loads of room, overhangs standard sized parking spaces by quite a lot of feet, measly payload rating 1410lbs.
So that's 220lb for a fat bastard driver,
300lb ish of tools in the back of the cab,
58lb for two stepladders,
1920lbs in 32 60lb bags of concrete in the bed on top of
1500lbs (ish) of sand that came out of the holes that the concrete is going in.
Not quite on the bump stops but I wouldn't have wanted to put another twenty bags in the remaiming free space...
#7091
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Joined: Jul 2015
Location: Panama City, FL
Posts: 2,055
Re: Let's talk about cars
Why do these bloody great trucks have such a piss poor payload rating???
Eg: Toyota Tundra 6'5" bed, takes up loads of room, overhangs standard sized parking spaces by quite a lot of feet, measly payload rating 1410lbs.
So that's 220lb for a fat bastard driver,
300lb ish of tools in the back of the cab,
58lb for two stepladders,
1920lbs in 32 60lb bags of concrete in the bed on top of
1500lbs (ish) of sand that came out of the holes that the concrete is going in.
Not quite on the bump stops but I wouldn't have wanted to put another twenty bags in the remaiming free space...
Eg: Toyota Tundra 6'5" bed, takes up loads of room, overhangs standard sized parking spaces by quite a lot of feet, measly payload rating 1410lbs.
So that's 220lb for a fat bastard driver,
300lb ish of tools in the back of the cab,
58lb for two stepladders,
1920lbs in 32 60lb bags of concrete in the bed on top of
1500lbs (ish) of sand that came out of the holes that the concrete is going in.
Not quite on the bump stops but I wouldn't have wanted to put another twenty bags in the remaiming free space...
These 'full size' trucks are generally termed 'half-ton' because the early ones had a payload of half a ton (1200lbs) so your 1400 is still better. My Silverado is around 1550lbs payload.
I bet she was creaking driving through them Florida mountains. I think even a duelly would have been struggling with that load.
#7092
#7093
Re: Let's talk about cars
You forgot the tank of fuel.
These 'full size' trucks are generally termed 'half-ton' because the early ones had a payload of half a ton (1200lbs) so your 1400 is still better. My Silverado is around 1550lbs payload.
I bet she was creaking driving through them Florida mountains. I think even a duelly would have been struggling with that load.
These 'full size' trucks are generally termed 'half-ton' because the early ones had a payload of half a ton (1200lbs) so your 1400 is still better. My Silverado is around 1550lbs payload.
I bet she was creaking driving through them Florida mountains. I think even a duelly would have been struggling with that load.
The engine barely gave it a second thought but there may have been some explaining to do if someone had pulled that good ol Florida trick of cutting up a driver right on the red lights!
When I eventually knacker the springs I will look for a heavier duty set and beef up the brakes a tad, it might still be underrated but at least I'll able to put stuff in the bed without having to worry if it'll stop or bust a spring. The chassis on the Tundra seems to be built for heavier work than the one on my 2010 F150 despite the fact that the F150 had an extra 200lb payload capacity. The only real 'mechanical' concern would be the tires.
And yes there are some gullible fools out there, but I can't afford a duelly, or a 7.5 tonner and the sites I work on aren't that practical for trailers. Unfortunately nowadays it seems to be the thing to have a kicking sound system and a crap load capacity, worse still the Tundra missed out on the interior bling and has neither.
#7094
Re: Let's talk about cars
My friend just bought a 2008 Tundra with 125,000 km on it, looks pretty minty.... with taxes it was $20,000 Cdn. He'll turn it into a pile of dirt in about 5 years.
#7095