Home and garden projects
#1576
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#1577
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Good catch, I missed that! .... Better still, while you have the face plates off, run them through the dishwasher - they will come out as clean as new.
#1578
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What I'm actually doing here is 're-painting' a wall in nominally the same color, but - I've given up trying to match the original paint so I'm going to simply paint the entire section. When I moved in, they had big formal window coverings ('curtains'/'drapes') that I found far too depressing, so I removed them all and patched lots of holes. They had the original paints in the garage but ... didn't match (only slightly off, but noticeable). I then bought a new can of the same paint (it was a 'named' color) and touched up with that - and it STILL does not match properly. So ... given that I have time on my hands, I'm choosing to redo the entire wall.
The reason for not doing all the walls is that this room is, in part, one of those 'open to the second floor' rooms ... half the room has 24' walls, and I'd have to get some pretty serious ladders to get up there - and a dose of nerve that I don't know if I possess! It's painting along the ceiling line that intimidates me - there's a temptation, once you are all the way up the ladder, to reach over as far as you can so you don't have to keep moving the ladder ... and I know myself ... I'll push my luck!
#1579
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Hmmmm ... I did all the brush work Wednesday, then did the roller work today. There's a distinct difference between the two; the brushwork looks lighter in color. I"m guessing this could be one of two things:
1) I'm using flat paint (totally flat) and what I'm seeing is the difference between surface textures from brush vs roller
2) I did not mix the paint well enough, such that the first task (the brush work) is a different color from the roller work. I had the paint 'custom mixed' on Sunday, and I'm only using 1 can (so I'm not dealing with can differences), so I ASSUMED the paint would be still well mixed from the store on Wednesday and would not need a heavy stirring / mixing. So the brush work was done, pretty much, straight from the can without a stir (I did shake it, as I recall). Today I gave it a good stir and then poured into the roller tray.
I still have half a can left so I will stir it well, and re-do the brush work one more time and see if that fixes it ...
Not sure if this provides enough subtle detail or not ...
1) I'm using flat paint (totally flat) and what I'm seeing is the difference between surface textures from brush vs roller
2) I did not mix the paint well enough, such that the first task (the brush work) is a different color from the roller work. I had the paint 'custom mixed' on Sunday, and I'm only using 1 can (so I'm not dealing with can differences), so I ASSUMED the paint would be still well mixed from the store on Wednesday and would not need a heavy stirring / mixing. So the brush work was done, pretty much, straight from the can without a stir (I did shake it, as I recall). Today I gave it a good stir and then poured into the roller tray.
I still have half a can left so I will stir it well, and re-do the brush work one more time and see if that fixes it ...
Not sure if this provides enough subtle detail or not ...
#1580
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Hmmmm ... I did all the brush work Wednesday, then did the roller work today. There's a distinct difference between the two; the brushwork looks lighter in color. I"m guessing this could be one of two things:
1) I'm using flat paint (totally flat) and what I'm seeing is the difference between surface textures from brush vs roller
2) I did not mix the paint well enough, such that the first task (the brush work) is a different color from the roller work. I had the paint 'custom mixed' on Sunday, and I'm only using 1 can (so I'm not dealing with can differences), so I ASSUMED the paint would be still well mixed from the store on Wednesday and would not need a heavy stirring / mixing. So the brush work was done, pretty much, straight from the can without a stir (I did shake it, as I recall). Today I gave it a good stir and then poured into the roller tray.
I still have half a can left so I will stir it well, and re-do the brush work one more time and see if that fixes it ...
Not sure if this provides enough subtle detail or not ...
1) I'm using flat paint (totally flat) and what I'm seeing is the difference between surface textures from brush vs roller
2) I did not mix the paint well enough, such that the first task (the brush work) is a different color from the roller work. I had the paint 'custom mixed' on Sunday, and I'm only using 1 can (so I'm not dealing with can differences), so I ASSUMED the paint would be still well mixed from the store on Wednesday and would not need a heavy stirring / mixing. So the brush work was done, pretty much, straight from the can without a stir (I did shake it, as I recall). Today I gave it a good stir and then poured into the roller tray.
I still have half a can left so I will stir it well, and re-do the brush work one more time and see if that fixes it ...
Not sure if this provides enough subtle detail or not ...
Texture could be part of it, and a brush or pad tends to put paint on much thinner - and I have usually blamed a thin paint layer, and found that the problem is mostly solved by painting again. There is IMO no chance that the paint separated from the pigment enough over night to make that much of a difference, it is more likely that it was never fully mixed in the first place - and I think I have had less of a problem when I paint the edges from the same tray Mrs P is rollering from.
One other thing, the colour of paint changes a bit as it dries, and you might find that by the time you're reading this that the colour difference is already much less than in the picture.
Last edited by Pulaski; Apr 10th 2020 at 12:20 pm.
#1581
Re: Home and garden projects
Hmmm, I have had that problem, though usually not quite as pronounced as what you have, per your picture.
Texture could be part of it, and a brush or pad tends to put paint on much thinner - and I have usually blamed a thin paint layer, and found that the problem is mostly solved by painting again. There is IMO no chance that the paint separated from the pigment enough over night to make that much of a difference, it is more likely that it was never fully mixed in the first place - and I think I have had less of a problem when I paint the edges from the same tray Mrs P is rollering from.
One other thing, the colour of paint changes a bit as it dries, and you might find that by the time you're reading this that the colour difference is already much less than in the picture.
Texture could be part of it, and a brush or pad tends to put paint on much thinner - and I have usually blamed a thin paint layer, and found that the problem is mostly solved by painting again. There is IMO no chance that the paint separated from the pigment enough over night to make that much of a difference, it is more likely that it was never fully mixed in the first place - and I think I have had less of a problem when I paint the edges from the same tray Mrs P is rollering from.
One other thing, the colour of paint changes a bit as it dries, and you might find that by the time you're reading this that the colour difference is already much less than in the picture.
#1582
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Which now makes me wonder ... I tried touching up another area months ago; the can was very clearly labeled by the previous owner as 'kitchen ceiling' and a recent date; but the paint dried obviously lighter and I simply assumed the can was mis-labeled. But thinking back, I didn't really mix the paint that well. I have a tendency to shake paint cans and try to avoid stirring, because for minor touch up, you lose more paint on the stirrer than you use for the touch up! So now I'm going to mix the hell out of that paint and try one more time!
#1583
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I spent the weekend like a giant mole, digging what looked like random holes and trenches in our front yard. I was attempting to resurrect our irrigation system, which has not been used for at least the 4 yrs we have been in the house. First task, find the inline valves (finally found by tracing pipes back towards the house). Then locate sprinklers - 5 out of 6 found. One still AWOL. Then fix leaks. 3 done so far, another 2 that i know of and presumably 1 more that is preventing the final sprinkler head from popping up. The ground is pretty much pure sand here and would be easy to dig through if it weren't for the many tree and shrub roots that are everywhere. What fun
#1584
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Re: Home and garden projects
I finally started seeing some germination yesterday on some new lawn that I dug up, prepared and seeded last weekend.
I'm hoping to see a bit more growth this week before laying down the starter fertilizer next weekend
I'm hoping to see a bit more growth this week before laying down the starter fertilizer next weekend
#1585
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It was something of a mission to get it all done, but I'm glad I invested the time in the end.
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#1589
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How to best paint a raised-panel door?
I have a door not unlike this one:
Which I want to re-paint with a regular indoor latex paint. I've only ever done this once or twice before, and when I've done it, I've started out painting the 'recessed' panel parts, then moving on to finish the inside panels, and finally doing the outside 'flat' parts. The problem I've run into doing this is that by the time I'm ready to do the outer 'flat' parts, the paint used to paint the inner recessed parts of the panels has started to dry, to the point where brushing the new paint tends to 'drag' the drying existing paint, leading to obvious marks which then need sanding out (on non-final coats) or ... living with them if it's the final coat. Is there a way to better handle this? Of course one can try not to get any paint from one 'area' into another area, but that's not possible to avoid in all cases. I think I've tried using a roller and doing the whole thing at once, side-to-side, but using a roller ends up with excess paint in the panel recesses that is hard to deal with. I will, of course, be laying the door flat so at least I have gravity on my side. Part of my challenge is I'm doing this in AZ where it is 80 degrees inside my home and 15% humidity, so paint is drying fast! I wonder if I should look into some sort of drying inhibitor to keep the paint more fluid so that when I have to paint up against an existing (already drying) section, there's less of a clash... ? Spraying would be ideal but that's not practical for me.
I have a door not unlike this one:
Which I want to re-paint with a regular indoor latex paint. I've only ever done this once or twice before, and when I've done it, I've started out painting the 'recessed' panel parts, then moving on to finish the inside panels, and finally doing the outside 'flat' parts. The problem I've run into doing this is that by the time I'm ready to do the outer 'flat' parts, the paint used to paint the inner recessed parts of the panels has started to dry, to the point where brushing the new paint tends to 'drag' the drying existing paint, leading to obvious marks which then need sanding out (on non-final coats) or ... living with them if it's the final coat. Is there a way to better handle this? Of course one can try not to get any paint from one 'area' into another area, but that's not possible to avoid in all cases. I think I've tried using a roller and doing the whole thing at once, side-to-side, but using a roller ends up with excess paint in the panel recesses that is hard to deal with. I will, of course, be laying the door flat so at least I have gravity on my side. Part of my challenge is I'm doing this in AZ where it is 80 degrees inside my home and 15% humidity, so paint is drying fast! I wonder if I should look into some sort of drying inhibitor to keep the paint more fluid so that when I have to paint up against an existing (already drying) section, there's less of a clash... ? Spraying would be ideal but that's not practical for me.
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Re: Home and garden projects
You could try a roller on the raised parts. Quickly paint those parts first in a few minutes then before it dries use a brush to paint the recessed edges.