Home and garden projects
#1516
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Re: Home and garden projects
#1518
Re: Home and garden projects
Last edited by Pulaski; Jan 15th 2020 at 7:29 pm.
#1519
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Re: Home and garden projects
Looking at the picture Steerpike posted it's hard to tell, but his might be an artsy-fartsy one like this, which doesn't appear to have a screw-in grid.
#1520
Re: Home and garden projects
Looking at the picture Steerpike posted it's hard to tell, but his might be an artsy-fartsy one like this, which doesn't appear to have a screw-in grid.
I'd be willing to buy it and try it but ... without the removal tool, I'm stuck. So now it's off to Home Depot to see what they have. I also have a local 'pro' plumbing supply store, so I'll try that too.
For the record, I HATE this faucet! At full power, water positively blasts out, and splashes everywhere; at lower levels, the water dribbles and spurts in a very unpleasing manner. It was in the house when we arrived. Anyway - off in search of the 'puller' tool.
#1521
Re: Home and garden projects
.... At full power, water positively blasts out, and splashes everywhere; at lower levels, the water dribbles and spurts in a very unpleasing manner. ....
#1522
Re: Home and garden projects
Ugh ... electrical problem. Just failed a city inspection on a bathroom remodel (that only included new counter and cabinet, no electrical work at all). The inspector tested the GFCI socket next to the sink; the socket correctly 'tripped' but when he then pressed 'reset' on the socket, it did NOT reset. Circuit breaker was NOT tripped. This wiring was not changed in the remodel; it was 'inherited' when we bought the place.
I just investigated, and found (after the inspector had left) that the GFCI socket in the bathroom (bathroom 1) is tied to the GFCI socket in bathroom 2. Once I reset the socket in bathroom 2, the socket in bathroom 1 could be reset and worked. I tested again; pressing 'test' on bathroom 1 socket tripped the GFCI socket in bathroom 2; resetting bathroom 2 GFCI socket allowed me to reset the socket in bathroom 1.
In my view, this is 'safe', in that, I have multiple GFCI's protecting me, but - I can imagine it is not 'code' to have one GFCI socket 'downstream' from another GFCI socket. Is that ok or not? If I show the inspector that another GFCI socket DID trip when he did his test, will he accept that?
One thought I have is to replace the GFCI socket in bathroom 1 with a regular socket, putting a sticker on it showing that it IS GFCI protected by the upstream socket in bathroom 2. But again - is that code (to have a bathroom socket not 'natively' protected, but rather protected by another GFCI socket in another room)?
Any thoughts from the brain trust? I'm desperately trying to get the inspection signed off as I'm running out of time ...
ETA - simple diagram of what is currently in place.
I just investigated, and found (after the inspector had left) that the GFCI socket in the bathroom (bathroom 1) is tied to the GFCI socket in bathroom 2. Once I reset the socket in bathroom 2, the socket in bathroom 1 could be reset and worked. I tested again; pressing 'test' on bathroom 1 socket tripped the GFCI socket in bathroom 2; resetting bathroom 2 GFCI socket allowed me to reset the socket in bathroom 1.
In my view, this is 'safe', in that, I have multiple GFCI's protecting me, but - I can imagine it is not 'code' to have one GFCI socket 'downstream' from another GFCI socket. Is that ok or not? If I show the inspector that another GFCI socket DID trip when he did his test, will he accept that?
One thought I have is to replace the GFCI socket in bathroom 1 with a regular socket, putting a sticker on it showing that it IS GFCI protected by the upstream socket in bathroom 2. But again - is that code (to have a bathroom socket not 'natively' protected, but rather protected by another GFCI socket in another room)?
Any thoughts from the brain trust? I'm desperately trying to get the inspection signed off as I'm running out of time ...
ETA - simple diagram of what is currently in place.
Last edited by Steerpike; Jan 15th 2020 at 9:14 pm.
#1523
Re: Home and garden projects
Ugh ... electrical problem. Just failed a city inspection on a bathroom remodel (that only included new counter and cabinet, no electrical work at all). The inspector tested the GFCI socket next to the sink; the socket correctly 'tripped' but when he then pressed 'reset' on the socket, it did NOT reset. Circuit breaker was NOT tripped.
I just investigated, and found that the GFCI socket in the bathroom (bathroom 1) is tied to the GFCI socket in bathroom 2. Once I reset the socket in bathroom 2, the socket in bathroom 1 could be reset and worked. I tested again; pressing 'test' on bathroom 1 socket tripped the GFCI socket in bathroom 2; resetting bathroom 2 GFCI socket allowed me to reset the socket in bathroom 1.
In my view, this is 'safe', in that, I have multiple GFCI's protecting me, but - I can imagine it is not 'code' to have one GFCI socket 'downstream' from another GFCI socket. Is that ok or not?
One thought I have is to replace the GFCI socket in bathroom 1 with a regular socket, putting a sticker on it showing that it IS GFCI protected by the upstream socket in bathroom 2. But again - is that code (to have a bathroom socket not 'natively' protected, but rather protected by another GFCI socket in another room)?
Any thoughts from the brain trust? I'm desperately trying to get the inspection signed off as I'm running out of time ...
I just investigated, and found that the GFCI socket in the bathroom (bathroom 1) is tied to the GFCI socket in bathroom 2. Once I reset the socket in bathroom 2, the socket in bathroom 1 could be reset and worked. I tested again; pressing 'test' on bathroom 1 socket tripped the GFCI socket in bathroom 2; resetting bathroom 2 GFCI socket allowed me to reset the socket in bathroom 1.
In my view, this is 'safe', in that, I have multiple GFCI's protecting me, but - I can imagine it is not 'code' to have one GFCI socket 'downstream' from another GFCI socket. Is that ok or not?
One thought I have is to replace the GFCI socket in bathroom 1 with a regular socket, putting a sticker on it showing that it IS GFCI protected by the upstream socket in bathroom 2. But again - is that code (to have a bathroom socket not 'natively' protected, but rather protected by another GFCI socket in another room)?
Any thoughts from the brain trust? I'm desperately trying to get the inspection signed off as I'm running out of time ...
#1524
Re: Home and garden projects
We have one GFCI that covers two bathrooms, so I would considered that to be normal, and is code-acceptable in NC, or at least was at the time the house was built ..... and I would guess still is. And yes, my recommendation would be to remove the downstream GFCI and pretend it hadn't existed.
I'd probably also use it as an excuse to buy a simple gfci tester.
#1525
#1526
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Re: Home and garden projects
It's been operational for about 6 months and now I want to replace the under-cabinet lights with the same (currently has LED 'pucks' that are 110V). I'm a bit nervous about using self-adhesive strips 'upside down' but I can always 'assist' the strips with glue or staples.
I also sourced the components from other cheaper suppliers,that I’d need to dim them from looking closely at their kits on offer. Works a treat.
#1527
Re: Home and garden projects
I got some channels that glue or screw in and diffusers for mine that are upside down from Lee Valley. (Fascinating catalogs)
I also sourced the components from other cheaper suppliers,that I’d need to dim them from looking closely at their kits on offer. Works a treat.
I also sourced the components from other cheaper suppliers,that I’d need to dim them from looking closely at their kits on offer. Works a treat.
I've invested pretty heavily in my Samsung SmartThings automation hub, including light switches, dimmers, motion sensors, etc. As much as I love to tinker and play, my g/f has no patience for any of it; she wants a wall switch to turn things on/off, so I've been focusing on switches such as these -
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N4F487U/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1which are 100% manual in addition to wireless controlled. So she can turn the lights on/off, or dim up/down, using the mechanical wall switch while I can programmatically do the same from afar.
#1528
Re: Home and garden projects
Ugh ... electrical problem. Just failed a city inspection on a bathroom remodel (that only included new counter and cabinet, no electrical work at all). The inspector tested the GFCI socket next to the sink; the socket correctly 'tripped' but when he then pressed 'reset' on the socket, it did NOT reset. Circuit breaker was NOT tripped. This wiring was not changed in the remodel; it was 'inherited' when we bought the place.
I just investigated, and found (after the inspector had left) that the GFCI socket in the bathroom (bathroom 1) is tied to the GFCI socket in bathroom 2. Once I reset the socket in bathroom 2, the socket in bathroom 1 could be reset and worked. I tested again; pressing 'test' on bathroom 1 socket tripped the GFCI socket in bathroom 2; resetting bathroom 2 GFCI socket allowed me to reset the socket in bathroom 1.
In my view, this is 'safe', in that, I have multiple GFCI's protecting me, but - I can imagine it is not 'code' to have one GFCI socket 'downstream' from another GFCI socket. Is that ok or not? If I show the inspector that another GFCI socket DID trip when he did his test, will he accept that?
One thought I have is to replace the GFCI socket in bathroom 1 with a regular socket, putting a sticker on it showing that it IS GFCI protected by the upstream socket in bathroom 2. But again - is that code (to have a bathroom socket not 'natively' protected, but rather protected by another GFCI socket in another room)?
Any thoughts from the brain trust? I'm desperately trying to get the inspection signed off as I'm running out of time ...
I just investigated, and found (after the inspector had left) that the GFCI socket in the bathroom (bathroom 1) is tied to the GFCI socket in bathroom 2. Once I reset the socket in bathroom 2, the socket in bathroom 1 could be reset and worked. I tested again; pressing 'test' on bathroom 1 socket tripped the GFCI socket in bathroom 2; resetting bathroom 2 GFCI socket allowed me to reset the socket in bathroom 1.
In my view, this is 'safe', in that, I have multiple GFCI's protecting me, but - I can imagine it is not 'code' to have one GFCI socket 'downstream' from another GFCI socket. Is that ok or not? If I show the inspector that another GFCI socket DID trip when he did his test, will he accept that?
One thought I have is to replace the GFCI socket in bathroom 1 with a regular socket, putting a sticker on it showing that it IS GFCI protected by the upstream socket in bathroom 2. But again - is that code (to have a bathroom socket not 'natively' protected, but rather protected by another GFCI socket in another room)?
Any thoughts from the brain trust? I'm desperately trying to get the inspection signed off as I'm running out of time ...
#1529
Re: Home and garden projects
When were the sockets installed? I have multiple GFCI sockets on the same circuit and when one trips it doesn't trip the others so it's possible one of yours is faulty or incorrectly installed.
https://youtu.be/nwzgitedljA?t=931
https://youtu.be/nwzgitedljA?t=931
#1530
Re: Home and garden projects
They were already present when I moved in last year; no idea of age. What you are saying is, if you have multiple GFCI's on a circuit, they should trip 'themselves' rather than trip the 'upstream' device? At this point, I've bought a standard (non-GFCI) outlet to replace the one in the bathroom. Sounds like that should pass inspection. After that, I can decide if I want to do more.