NYer

Can I ask how you knew he had these weapons in the back of his police car? Ordinarily, when you are stopped for speeding or driving infractions, a person remains in his own car while the cop returns alone to his vehicle with the license, registration & insurance.

BenK91

I thought the perception was that we're all just high and sipping moonshine from our Nalgene bottle?

BenK91

Due to the weather conditions, and narrow road I was stopped on he invited me to sit in the front of his cruiser. Very nice guy actually. Certainly not your run of the mill policeman.

He also had to ask me more questions and go through more documentation as the car I was driving had been purchased the day before in California (I was driving it back). Therefore I had no registration documents as such - merely the sales contract and temporary window sticker.

Nutmegger

Contemplating this thread has made me wonder if there are posters here who have never had someone or something – could be a spouse, a child, a beloved pet – snatched away from them out of the blue. I’m not talking about a parent becoming elderly and dying, but the situation where someone goes out to work and never comes home again; or a supposedly routine operation turns fatal. I can’t believe that anyone who has truly loved can think that second amendment rights beat out the right of any person, of any age, to live their life through to its logical conclusion in old age, safe from wondering if this is the day it all ends. Look at your family, your pets, anyone you truly love. Isn’t it worth getting the kind of weapons that should never be in the hands of civilians off the streets in order to be sure that your child comes home from school tonight, your wife or husband returns from the office? However difficult it may be, however long a haul to accomplish it, massive changes have to be made. There’s nothing to laugh about where this topic is concerned. It truly is life and death we’re discussing. Time for a little John Donne:


No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.

Octang Frye

I hear you, Nutmegger, but you can't live your life that way.
Otherwise we'd never leave the house.

I had a friend commit suicide this last Boxing Day. My nextdoor neighbor, friend and school mate was knocked off his bicycle and killed when he was 11.

So you just want firearms out of the hands of civilians? I'm sure the BLM folk would agree with you.

RoadWarriorFromLP

The irony is that I used to mildly oppose gun control until I started reading pro-gun comments online.

There are almost zero instances when I read them and think, "Gee, I'm sure glad that the guy who posted that has access to weapons." Usually, it's quite the opposite.

The problem isn't with guns. It's with gun owners.

NYer

OK!

Octang Frye

Oh boy... How many hundreds of millions of guns in the country? Gun owners are the problem? If we were really the problem there'd be blood on the streets every day.
Gun violence down in America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2ed33a79e830

BenK91

He did think I was Australian when he first started speaking to me though. Bit of an insult.

BenK91

Great article.

The misconception a lot of people seem to have on this thread is that just because you own a gun, you use it often or carry it everywhere which couldn't be further from the truth for the majority of gun owners.

Octang Frye

I haven't seen my guns since February of last year when I had the nephew over with his friend. Took them to the range, I really should clean them. The guns, not the nephew.

Leslie

How do the pedants like the way Trump used "machine gun" in his bump stock announcement? Surely that is verboten?


"That process began in December, and just a few moments ago I signed a memorandum directing the attorney general to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns," Trump said.

gasp

RoadWarriorFromLP

You're not doing your side any favors. Frankly, you sound like a guy who should be restricted to slingshots made for kids.

The US has the highest homicide rate in the first world. So thanks for proving my point for me.

Octang Frye

He's pretty much correct.
You're approximating automatic fire.
Machine guns fire rifle caliber rounds automatically.
Submachine guns fire pistol rounds automatically.

BenK91

For once he actually isn't that incorrect.

Bump stocks and other devices like that should be banned, so a good move for once. Although they really shouldn't have ever been legal and easily accessible.