Fitness...do you?
#526
Re: Fitness...do you?
With all due respect exercise isn't really the answer to permanent weight loss. It helps of course and the health benefits are incalculable. I have been involved with fitness and nutrition most of my working life and unquestionably the best way is to simply, and slowly, reduce the amount of food you put in your mouth!!! Instead of four biscuits eat two, cut back on the bolognas when having spaghetti, that sort of thing.
When you consider that you would have to run 30 miles to lose a pound of fat (3500) it just isn't worth while trying! Not that your body uses just fat calories anyway. Because of the way it does burn energy you would have to run, probably 50 miles, all without replacing the energy!!! A very tall order. Slowly slowly, cachee monkey! Get it off very slowly no more than a kilo a week and it will stay off; with a little discipline of course!
When you consider that you would have to run 30 miles to lose a pound of fat (3500) it just isn't worth while trying! Not that your body uses just fat calories anyway. Because of the way it does burn energy you would have to run, probably 50 miles, all without replacing the energy!!! A very tall order. Slowly slowly, cachee monkey! Get it off very slowly no more than a kilo a week and it will stay off; with a little discipline of course!
It pays to read more of the thread before jumping in you should probably read Ray's guide to the site ; - )
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Re: Fitness...do you?
If I have offended you then I apologise. I was just trying to help. Absolutely no need to be aggressive.
#529
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With all due respect exercise isn't really the answer to permanent weight loss. It helps of course and the health benefits are incalculable. I have been involved with fitness and nutrition most of my working life and unquestionably the best way is to simply, and slowly, reduce the amount of food you put in your mouth!!! Instead of four biscuits eat two, cut back on the bolognas when having spaghetti, that sort of thing.
When you consider that you would have to run 30 miles to lose a pound of fat (3500) it just isn't worth while trying! Not that your body uses just fat calories anyway. Because of the way it does burn energy you would have to run, probably 50 miles, all without replacing the energy!!! A very tall order. Slowly slowly, cachee monkey! Get it off very slowly no more than a kilo a week and it will stay off; with a little discipline of course!
When you consider that you would have to run 30 miles to lose a pound of fat (3500) it just isn't worth while trying! Not that your body uses just fat calories anyway. Because of the way it does burn energy you would have to run, probably 50 miles, all without replacing the energy!!! A very tall order. Slowly slowly, cachee monkey! Get it off very slowly no more than a kilo a week and it will stay off; with a little discipline of course!
I'm certainly no gargantuan eater, but I don't consciously "reduce the amount of food" I put in my mouth either. What does go in I thoroughly enjoy.
I love my food, even more so after coming to France years ago, and having a French wife who cooks healthily and divinely I guess must help. Rarely drink beer, never drink spirits, but...... love red wine, have an excellent cellar, but drink very moderately i.e. max 2 bottles/week between the two of us. The little lady likes white wine, I don't and never drink it. If she opens a white, I'll open a red, still keeping within our normal 2 bottles/week, which I hasten to add is a general rule - occasionally broken.......
At school I detested cross-country running, something we were chain-ganged into every other week. Years later on a company-sponsored seminar in East-Hartford Connecticut, some wag came up with the 'brilliant' idea of a team early-morning run of a few miles before breakfast. I hated it, but loved the breakfast aftermath (the healthy choices of course) leaving the waffles and treacly items for the others.
Eat well and healthily, drink in moderation, avoid strenuous exercise, and have an annual medical appears to work well for myself.
Being fairly well-built, and apparently having the correct weight/height ratio, the only form of exercise I enjoy is a fast, brisk walk with the dog twice a day which keeps me fighting fit - or maybe it's this forum. Or more probably the red wine.......
#530
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Well from what you say, I was born before you, have a very healthy philosophy of avoiding running and strenuous exercise at all costs, and instead of eating one biscuit, enjoy eating two, occasionally three. Seriously!
I'm certainly no gargantuan eater, but I don't consciously "reduce the amount of food" I put in my mouth either. What does go in I thoroughly enjoy.
I love my food, even more so after coming to France years ago, and having a French wife who cooks healthily and divinely I guess must help. Rarely drink beer, never drink spirits, but...... love red wine, have an excellent cellar, but drink very moderately i.e. max 2 bottles/week between the two of us. The little lady likes white wine, I don't and never drink it. If she opens a white, I'll open a red, still keeping within our normal 2 bottles/week, which I hasten to add is a general rule - occasionally broken.......
At school I detested cross-country running, something we were chain-ganged into every other week. Years later on a company-sponsored seminar in East-Hartford Connecticut, some wag came up with the 'brilliant' idea of a team early-morning run of a few miles before breakfast. I hated it, but loved the breakfast aftermath (the healthy choices of course) leaving the waffles and treacly items for the others.
Eat well and healthily, drink in moderation, avoid strenuous exercise, and have an annual medical appears to work well for myself.
Being fairly well-built, and apparently having the correct weight/height ratio, the only form of exercise I enjoy is a fast, brisk walk with the dog twice a day which keeps me fighting fit - or maybe it's this forum. Or more probably the red wine.......
I'm certainly no gargantuan eater, but I don't consciously "reduce the amount of food" I put in my mouth either. What does go in I thoroughly enjoy.
I love my food, even more so after coming to France years ago, and having a French wife who cooks healthily and divinely I guess must help. Rarely drink beer, never drink spirits, but...... love red wine, have an excellent cellar, but drink very moderately i.e. max 2 bottles/week between the two of us. The little lady likes white wine, I don't and never drink it. If she opens a white, I'll open a red, still keeping within our normal 2 bottles/week, which I hasten to add is a general rule - occasionally broken.......
At school I detested cross-country running, something we were chain-ganged into every other week. Years later on a company-sponsored seminar in East-Hartford Connecticut, some wag came up with the 'brilliant' idea of a team early-morning run of a few miles before breakfast. I hated it, but loved the breakfast aftermath (the healthy choices of course) leaving the waffles and treacly items for the others.
Eat well and healthily, drink in moderation, avoid strenuous exercise, and have an annual medical appears to work well for myself.
Being fairly well-built, and apparently having the correct weight/height ratio, the only form of exercise I enjoy is a fast, brisk walk with the dog twice a day which keeps me fighting fit - or maybe it's this forum. Or more probably the red wine.......
As I compete in triathlon and long distance open water swimming being of a body composition suitable for these sports is obviously important. Every kilo has to be carried! If I may be so bold as to say your regime sounds very comfortable and as long as your happy so long may it continue. It's not for me, I would probably wear out the dog!!!!
#532
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Yes....but I go to a sports chiropractor that specialises in sports injuries .
My guy correctly diagnosed torn rotator cuff that needed surgery when 2 gps and an orthopedic surgeon just gave me painkillers and steroids. Knee pain that was IT band related after a week of skiing. His usual prescription is strengthening exercises to address imbalance. works for me
My guy correctly diagnosed torn rotator cuff that needed surgery when 2 gps and an orthopedic surgeon just gave me painkillers and steroids. Knee pain that was IT band related after a week of skiing. His usual prescription is strengthening exercises to address imbalance. works for me
#533
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Yes....but I go to a sports chiropractor that specialises in sports injuries .
My guy correctly diagnosed torn rotator cuff that needed surgery when 2 gps and an orthopedic surgeon just gave me painkillers and steroids. Knee pain that was IT band related after a week of skiing. His usual prescription is strengthening exercises to address imbalance. works for me
My guy correctly diagnosed torn rotator cuff that needed surgery when 2 gps and an orthopedic surgeon just gave me painkillers and steroids. Knee pain that was IT band related after a week of skiing. His usual prescription is strengthening exercises to address imbalance. works for me
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Back pain is almost a constant companion. I first 'slipped a disc' at 18 years of age (I'm 73 now) Quite a few injuries followed, sport and work being the cause. I tried all the. usual avenues over the years Chiropractors, phsio etc and quite honestly thought they were a bunch of charlatans. I have found that exercise is the key to managing pain. I compete in triathlons and find that with the right approach to exercise back pain (in my case) is very well managed. The 'quacks' may work for some but I bet people who use them have to be constantly treated. That doesn't sound like a cure to me. Still, if people feel they benefit; why not; it's their money.
#535
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Yeah, being sent home with painkillers is a red flag. Those who serve the sports and athletic communities have a surprising number of effective tools that more mainstream medical professionals don’t seem to know about. Their clientele typically has a strong expectation of a positive outcome and are not so easily fobbed off.
Back injuries??? Strong abs. Do your situps/crunches/sidetoside crunches and engage your abs when lifting, sitting/standing. A few of my fellow rowers do yoga to ease out muscles.
Weight loss/gain is so multi-faceted. I used to be in the camp of eat less/move more but had to eat my own words in the last few years as that failed to help at all with what seemed to be an unstoppable/slow weight gain. HRT helped ( sleeping better) but my thyroid had slowly been packing up and now I take thyroxin and I feel like the old me. Weight has dropped off.
I also eat intermittent fasting 6:18 and when I row in the mornings I do it in a fasted state (no breakfast).
#536
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It's the a-symmetrical nature that's the beast in this one though.
#537
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I'm a rower in a really good club that has US national team + Olympic rowers. We are all very careful to avoid injuries - particularly over-training ones. One of the top level rowers is a chiropractor who gives us excellent advice regarding posture and exercises to address particular issues. As my rowing has progressed, little body quirks have been addressed to improve my technique/speed/strength.
You’re right. The eat less/move more/calorie deficit is a good starting point, a transition to something better. But calories are not equal between foods or people. I’ve watched quite a few folks get startling results by counting macros, but it requires a very high level of commitment and fine tuning of the numbers to maintain progress. Then there are other potential issues as you mention.
#538
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You’re right. The eat less/move more/calorie deficit is a good starting point, a transition to something better. But calories are not equal between foods or people. I’ve watched quite a few folks get startling results by counting macros, but it requires a very high level of commitment and fine tuning of the numbers to maintain progress. Then there are other potential issues as you mention.
It's so disheartening to see so many commercials/gym 'deals' that offer 10lbs off or your money back; knowing full well that part is easy - its getting past that initial plateau that's hard.
I've always been on the skinny side, but work out as I eat crap (especially when traveling/late work nights also Sweetgreen & byChloe is expensive) and it took a while for me to figure out that an hour of watching whatever on Hulu + not going overboard on an elliptical 2-3 times a week was enough to maintain my weight/body type. I've seen other things like swimming works better for other friends, and I know one girl that goes literally insane on a treadmill for 30 minutes 5 days a week works for her. I personally can't stand a treadmill, it gives me back ache after about 15 minutes.
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Right, I need you mofos to give me a kick up the arse. Other than football once a week (and not every week so it isn't even a great excuse), I haven't done any proper exercise since I think February, I've put everything I lost over the last 2.5 years back on again with change and Christmas beckons with its lovely, lovely food and I will be treating the 24th and 25th as cheat days. But I need to do something before I end up having a bloody heart attack or something.
So please feel free to verbally abuse me at every opportunity when I don't keep my calories down or do some kind of exercise. Starting Sunday at least, I mean be reasonable ...
So please feel free to verbally abuse me at every opportunity when I don't keep my calories down or do some kind of exercise. Starting Sunday at least, I mean be reasonable ...