Originally Posted by Steerpike (Post 12119011)

I've been working in healthcare IT for the past 10 years now, and Faxes are one of my pet peeves. I agree with everyone posting here that faxing sucks, but - it is considered secure.

Originally Posted by GeoffM (Post 12125499)

I don't disagree with you - but when the output tray of the recipient's fax machine is unattended, a fax is as secure as boiling water in a chocolate teapot. So many times in a doctor's office or pharmacy I could have just reached over and taken some presumably sensitive documents. :thumbdown:

Originally Posted by GeoffM (Post 12125499)

I don't disagree with you - but when the output tray of the recipient's fax machine is unattended, a fax is as secure as boiling water in a chocolate teapot. So many times in a doctor's office or pharmacy I could have just reached over and taken some presumably sensitive documents. :thumbdown:

Originally Posted by tom169 (Post 12125538)

I agree. It's similar to leaving a computer unlocked.

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12125504)

Who boils water in a teapot? I get the point though. I have heard of people doing this and then wonder why the thing cracks on the range.

Originally Posted by GeoffM (Post 12125570)

I see the confusion :rofl: I meant the presence of boiling water, not the act of boiling it!

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12125569)

This drives me crazy, just a little pet peeve. I deal with sensitive information and some employees are always leaving their machine unlocked.

Originally Posted by Olly_ (Post 12125012)

I still found it crazy that when I bought a car from a dealer in another state I handed over a cashiers check for the balance and drove it away without them doing any sort of validation on it - in the UK nobody in their right mind would let you drive a car away without cleared funds!

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 12124979)

Faxes are way less secure than e-mail, any moron can spoof the sending number, how many calls do you get a day that claim to be from number X and it's someone in India trying to con you? Now if I can get into your SMTP I can spoof any e-mail address I want, but even basic SMTP implementations don't allow you to do that without a username and password.

Not that I disagree with your general comments about e-mail, one of my pet peeves are people who use webmail without SSL certificates, which Exchange and Office 365 force you to have, but various open source programs don't. The problem is that TLS and SSL do put an overhead on the server but seriously nowadays with how fast computers are, who cares?

Faxes though overall are way less secure. There are various ways of spoofing sending and receiving numbers and intercepting them over-the-wire.

Originally Posted by thinbrit (Post 12119431)

I'm not aware of any veterinary practice management software that interfaces directly with a pharmacy network, nor do I have any intention of making a switch to one that does. I can't imagine that being a selling point.

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12125504)

Who boils water in a teapot? I get the point though. I have heard of people doing this and then wonder why the thing cracks on the range.

Originally Posted by GeoffM (Post 12125570)

I see the confusion :rofl: I meant the presence of boiling water, not the act of boiling it!

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12125954)

You missed the word that made the post funny.

MrKen didn't seem to notice that you said chocolate teapot.

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12125978)

I totally did see the chocolate part, ....

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12126175)

In that case your post makes even less sense.

:getcoat:

Originally Posted by Duncan Roberts (Post 12125905)

This is all totally irrelevant. Fax is legally secure, email is not unless it's a secure system like Zixmail. At least in healthcare. It's a little more complicated than that but in general that holds true.